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What's the matter with bus routes?
this post was submitted on 12 Jan 2024
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My problem is that they are broken. Like a lot of them. Most of them.
Here are all the broken routes on OSMI. Just zoom in anywhere. (this also shows other means of transportation, but most of them are bus routes)
A lot of users don't understand them, ID editor's support of them is minimal, so a lot of users accidentally break them, and they don't even understand what is the problem, because they can't see them in ID.
Fixing them is not easy, and time consuming. There is no easy way to batch edit them, so if someone messes up a roundabout, you have to fix all bus lines one by one. OSM Relatify helps somewhat with that, but it has its own limitations, and you still have to edit them separately.
same for hiking and biking routes. I found some obvious errors but I am not able to fix it with ID. I created some notes for them but since several monthes nobody fixed it.
@redd @infeeeee we need just more people working with JOSM :josm: @josmeditor
JOSM is designed to be used on a Computer with keyboard and mouse. Therefore I assume your wish will not come true.
Perhaps we need to wait until there are mobile app which can be used to fix all the hiking, biking and bus relations. (I tested Vespucci and its horrible for relation fixing)
This picture a metaphor for so many of the bigger open-source projects. I love it.
Can anyone tell me more about the OSMF hostile takeover?
@toaster @infeeeee There's been about ~4 or 5 attempts IIRC.
This one is well documented: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GlobalLogic
This is incredibly accurate.