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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Finally, they removed the middleman - Saudi Arabia - and started dropping their bombs on the Houthis directly.

At least it's less hypocrite than what was going on before.

Can't but wonder if the Houthis aren't used to US and UK bombs being dropped on them by now and if thus this will make that much of a difference (weren't the Houthis mountain people, same as the Afghans?).

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Don't fuck with global trade. Your cause can be a shining beacon of righteousness, but take out trading routes you get the big boy stick. Always has been like that.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Whilst I agree with your point on why this is happenning, after what happenned in Afghanistan, I'm not quite sure of the effectiveness of what you named "big boy stick" against people who have little to lose and have spent over a decade being hit by such a "stick" only yielded by a mate if said "big boy".

A lot of what I'm reading here is the same "America, yeah!" stuff as before the invasion of Afghanistan - nationalistic enthusiasm rather than anything thought through.

Looking at the hostorical track record, it's a little premature to celebrate the effectiveness of this.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

The Huthis have been launching ballistic missiles across country lines and target (among other things) international shipping lanes somewhat recently. They're not soldering up IEDs in caves to fend of a US invasion force, so I'm not sure how apt the comparison with Afghanistan is.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, I don't even see a contradiction with OP there. The big boy stick comes out, Western politicians are seen doing something and don't get blamed for the higher prices on "TIEMAM banana-shaped egg holder for children yellow plastic food container", a few of the non-Western brown guys die, but not most of them, and history continues. I don't think that there's a good reason was implied.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 8 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Can’t but wonder if the Houthis aren’t used to US and UK bombs being dropped on them by now and if thus this will make that much of a difference (weren’t the Houthis mountain people, same as the Afghans?).

Pretty much what the news analysts are saying, even. I'm unsure why Biden and Sunak felt like this was a good idea. I really can't see any possible upside. Now they look even more crooked in the region than before, because the only thing they acted on are the cargo ships loaded with dumb crap for the West, and the Houthis look cool and relevant directly fighting them. The threat to shipping is even higher than before if anything, and the whole place is even closer to going WWI.

They could have just parked their warships there and kept eating drones. It would have costed a lot in interceptors, but you'd think even a few more weeks of situation normal would have been worth it.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There's a really interesting (but quite long) YouTube deep dive into history about how there has been a struggle between city builders who farm and nomads/'barbarians' who herd for all of our history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrqkwG7Nqj8

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And Iran just seized a US oil tanker in the strait of hormuz today.

In fairness, its one the US seized from Iran some time back.

But geez, CENTCOM has too many problems today.

[–] HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago

So not a US oil tanker then?

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] ThompsonJr@lemmus.org 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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