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Isn’t this criminal negligence?
Being told by a medical professional to quarantine and wantonly ignoring it is a lot like your mechanic telling you not to drive a car and you doing it anyway.
I don’t see why the family shouldn’t be held to account for every single infection they started by sending their kid to day care.
Except who will arrest them? The cops won't enforce mask or quarantine mandates. COVID fucked all that up.
Just say that the kid had a mental breakdown. The cops will come in pronto and shoot the dog.
They'll bring about 10 to 20 more people if you say he has marijuana or mushrooms too!
Covid didn't fuck it up. Stupid conservatives did that.
If the government truly wants to enforce a quarantine, they can. Remember when the Ebola scare was a thing? I know someone who was caught up in that; They were required to do thrice daily temperature checks, and the CDC would randomly call a landline they set up, around ten times a day. On those calls, they had to report any potential symptoms for every single person in the household. The CDC made it very clear that if they didn’t answer the phone, the feds were coming inside with hazmat gear to verify they hadn’t snuck out. It was basically house arrest without the ankle monitors.
They had to have a very awkward conversation with their boss about it, because they were working as a lowly retail worker at the time. It was basically “hey uhh… You’ve seen the Ebola stuff in the news right? Yeah, I won’t be able to come in for a little while, because the feds say I’ll be arrested if I leave my house.”
Its tempting to rail against these parents but for the daycare part specifically let us not forget that people in America don't get free healthcare, and we dont get paid sick days. You take your kid to daycare not because you fucking want to, your American boss doesn't give a shit about your problems, he needs you in right now or you're looking for another way to feed your kids
True, but in this specific case,
The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.
This parent strongly deserves a good railing against.
...fuck that is pretty hard to defend
Will the family of the child face any consequences? I'd be very angry if my son was infected and they knew all along. Like looking for revenge angry!
The part where the parent refused medication that can prevent infection is awful too. Can you imagine being so against medicine that you both risk your child's life and risk leaving your child without a parent?
They believe in medicine to some degree if they were already at the hospital.
Edit: like those covidiots who only went in after the horse dewormer failed
Yeah I don't understand why they would go to the hospital and then not accept the treatment. For a diagnosis? How can they trust the diagnosis if they don't trust the treatment?
In the case of COVID at least, they went because they were literally drowning in their own mucus and didn’t have a choice. They only started refusing things when they woke up enough to be delusional again.
At the very least CPS better be involved. I would definitely hope they take your child away if you'd risk your health, the child's health, and the health of other children like that.
Sending a child with a highly infectious disease that is as dangerous and potentially deadly as measles into a day care should be held accountable. This is reckless endangerment of other peoples' lives.
The parents and the child were unvaccinated and the parents refused medication. I'd hazard a guess that they're on that anti-vax esoteric shit.
Hopefully DCFS can investigate them then. They are endangering not just the lives of their own child but others too. I would be livid if I was a parent and these idiots got my kid sick.
Agreed. It would be nice if people weren't so pressured to go to work for money that they could take care of children rather than feeling like you need to abandon them for a job. I'm not saying they did this. But over 3/4 of my sick days last year was to take of my kid. And when I had COVID, I was out and the statutes to pay me were gone.
The disease then spread to three other people at CHOP, two of whom were already hospitalized there for other reasons.
Two of those infected at the hospital were a parent and child. The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.
Despite quarantine instructions, the child was sent to day care on Dec. 20 and 21, the health department said.v
It's shocking how far backwards we've gone with respect to basic science... When I was a kid, vaccines were a given. Nobody ever batted an eye.
Fuck Andrew Wakefield.
They should arrest the parents for negligence at this point. If any of the kids die they should get man slaughter charges.
Agreed. They should be charged. Adults and unborn fetuses have more rights than children do. A woman can miscarry and get charged with abuse of a corpse, if I drink and drive and kill someone I go to jail but if I choose not to vaccinate my child and the child dies I get a pass?
I don't see how this already doesn't amount to criminal negligence.
Even if no one dies, anyone financially harmed by their actions, be it the daycare or families of potentially exposed children should be able to sue this moron for their losses. Freedom of choice isn't freedom from consequence
If any subsequent children die due to this outbreak, charge the parents that sent the sick child to daycare with murder.
Or charge them with reckless endangerment now and tack on manslaughter charges later.
This should just generally be the case with vaccine refusal. If you refuse a vaccine and kill someone, that should be manslaughter
Regardless of if anyone dies, they put others at risk by not quarantining. I don't view this as any different than waving a gun around in public. They should be prosecuted for endangering others.
SSPE will fuck up your brain, you do not want measles spreading, get your vaccine if you're due for it.
Unfortunately my wife cannot get the MMR vaccine. She essentially has to quarantine whenever there is a case in the area.
Ooof, they got the expensive disease. Measles ruins your immune system, which takes ages to rebuild. In a British study studying religious antivaxxers vs vaccinated children, there was a much higher cost incurred per child for years, lol. They got a lot sicker a lot more often and needed more prescriptions because of what measles did to them.
Measles is crazy infectious too, it's basically like the Flood pathogen from Halo. Getting it in your brain really bumps up chances of dying. Luckily the MMR vaccine gives you lifelong immunity, especially with two shots. So it's mostly just an anti-vaxxer penalty these days. Too bad we almost eliminated it if not for them.
I actually had measles as a kid. My parents hadn't gotten me vaccinated when they were supposed to not out of any antivaxx nonsense but regular old neglect.
Lemme tell you. Whoever catches it? Highly unlikely they'll be antivaxx after that. Measles is probably the worst thing that ever happened to me and it's the reason I was the first in line every time I was eligible for a covid vaccine. Me and the old ladies who remembered polio needed absolutely zero convincing.
Can we deport these deplorables yet? They're uncivilized and a burden on the tax payer funded system.
Who do these people work for? Their sick day policies bear a lot of the blame.
Maybe, but a lot of people go to work when slightly sick despite their company having a good policy.
I know this isn't the point, but I'll never get over that something as big and expensive as world class hospital could be built and they named it "chop". No one said anything?
Yeah it sucks the family ignored the quarantine orders, I agree. Maybe they should be held liable for that.
What concerns me more, and what we should be talking about, is that the kid shows up at the hospital and two other patients contact the disease. At the hospital.
Being at a hospital should not be a threat to ones health. This along with other hospital borne illness and the insane amount of preventable deaths from medical negligence should concern all of us.
Measles is incredibly infectious, it's why we eradicated it in the first place. Plus there are rules to follow in a hospital waiting room specifically designed to avoid that.
But it relies on people actually following rules, and we can assume someone that didn't vaccinate or follow quarantine procedure is not a big fan of following "meaningless" rules. And meaningless to them is any rule they don't understand. Unfortunately they actively try to understand as little as possible so no one can accuse them of being the very scariest word to them right now, "woke".
Waiting rooms are the worst. I'm so glad we finally have the technology to allow us to check in from home and completely avoid waiting rooms.
It sounds like it wasn't obvious the first child had measles when they were admitted. The initial symptoms don't include the rash. Measles is uncommon here, and it's ludicrously infectious, well above flu or most other similar-appearing diseases.
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/symptoms/signs-symptoms.html
It also sounds like, as soon as they realized, the hospital tried to prevent the spread by giving medication to those exposed. This parent refused it.
Being at a hospital should not be a threat to ones health.
Being in a place where sick people are is a threat to your health. Sick people go to the hospital. What do you think the hospital is for?