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[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 115 points 10 months ago (6 children)

One of the positives from the covid pandemic is a lot of bathroom doors can be opened with your foot now.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Also the return of paper towels for hand drying.

I hate those stupid air dryers. Most of them barely do any better than just shaking your hands in the air, because they’re simply spraying your clean hands with all of the shit and piss particles that are floating in the air.

Would rather have some cheap paper towels so I can dry my hands, and use the towel to open the door before throwing it in the trash.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Additionally, my understanding is that a lot of the cleaning done by washing your hands is mechanical, and using a paper towel with a slightly rough and absorbent surface scrapes off all the stuff that has been loosened by washing with soap and water.

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Outside of antibacterial or germicidal soaps, the cleaning action of washing with soap is 100% mechanical. Soap molecules are asymmetrical and have one side that’s hydrophilic and one side that’s hydrophobic which, when used with water, creates a nifty mechanism that picks up crap on one side and catches a ride on the water molecules with the other side.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't basic soap also destroying the lipidic membrane of most bacteria? It doesn't need to be specific antibacterial soap for that.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Most of them barely do any better than just shaking your hands in the air,

I saw one of these once where someone scratched "4. wipe hands on pants" on the instruction panel.

The trick is to shake dry in the sink, then rub the moisture up past your wrists onto your forearms, creating a thin layer. Then use the dryer, repeating the rubbing motion spreading the moisture out until it's gone.

because they’re simply spraying your clean hands with all of the shit and piss particles that are floating in the air.

This is the real problem. Apparently, the Dyson air blades are the worst: https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/dyson-dryers-hurl-60x-more-viruses-most-at-kid-face-height-than-other-dryers/

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I haven't ever seen a door like that, except in hospitals. I wish they'd become more popular in my area

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[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 85 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Seriously though, one of my biggest pet peeves is when they get every other aspect of touch-less design correct, and then fail with the door.

#designfails

[–] farty@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or when the soap dispenser is touchless but not the tap.

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[–] HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The best design is no door. You walk in and around a corner / wall.. Think airport.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 56 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Easy. Just lick the door handle 3 ~ 4 times to clean it so that you don't need to get your hands dirty.

[–] Established_Trial@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s how I do it and I’ve only had Covid 5 times! Works like a charm.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just grab the handle using my butt cheeks.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't those blowers spread way more germs than just using a paper towel?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And you can open the door with a paper towel too. Also, paper is one of our most renewable resources, and most recyclable.

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[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The sensors aren't there for your convenience to turn them on, they are there to save the business money by turning them off.

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[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those dyson.airblade urinals are typically so messy that they defeat the purpose of touch less.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Please stop peeing on those. They are not actually urinals.

[–] proctonaut@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Listen, superchief. If I piss in it it's a urinal.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But... they're too high to poop in... 🤔

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[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My favourite is the kind of S curve that some places have, so you just walk in, but it's private enough that people can't just leer from the hallway or whatever I'm not actually sure what we're accomplishing with doors here unless it's a very tight space I guess like if the bathroom is near the area where patrons eat at a resto? Yeah I get that, door away. Sorry for rambling.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I worked in an office that had the S curve bathroom and I do not recommend it. People who sat on that side of the floor got to hear the air dryer every time someone used the bathroom. Also, the smells... Automatic door openers are the answer.

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

I went to college the S curves, as well as one office briefly before the pandemic, but they were both off the "main drag" by a bit. Like along a hallway that didn't have people just sitting nearby.

As is eternally the case, location matters

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Need those foot handles to kick the door open. God bless establishments that have installed them.

Otherwise, I roll my sleave over my hand and pull the door open. Especially in restaurants.

[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't like the sleeve method. Grime just hangs out on your sleeves and then gets deep in the fibers. No thank you. I use my pinky and ring fingers when I absolutely have to.

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[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The step n pull was actually a shark tank product

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (7 children)

A hobby of mine is to get annoyed at hand dryers. 80% of the models I find are eyerollingly useless. Blow a faint breeze for five seconds, stop and refuse to trigger again no matter how much you try to slap the air in front of it.

Then there are those 5% that actually gets it. Blowing a jet stream that makes the water droplets sublimate so fast you forget you even washed.

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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There are add on "foot handles" that sort this out, but they are pretty uncommon.

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Hand driers that use air increase "germs" on your skin. Paper towels reduce them.

If there are no paper towels I use toilet paper. Last time I used a public restroom I dried my hands on my pants.

[–] nezbyte@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

There is a lot of fear-mongering and misinformation about paper towels vs air dryers. Paper towels are marginally more hygienic because air dryers spray the particles off your hand into the air. Neither are a good option if you don’t wash your hands well to begin with.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/apr/25/hand-dryers-paper-towels-hygiene-dyson-airblade

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I dont know if this has been definitively proven as last I heard the studies that reflected this were paid for by paper manufacturers.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When they have paper towels, what I do is take the last one with which I dried my hands to grab or pinch the door handle and pull.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Easy, just open it with your teeth, then your hands will stay clean.

[–] BeerMedic@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Spit on it and pull. Spit kills everything, right?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Geez, I hope not.

We'd run out of pornstars!

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I grab it with the edge of my shirt. While it's not ideal, my shirt will be washed later and it spares me having to deal with risk of fecal particles on my hands where they can immediately reach my face.

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah, this drives me crazy. Best thing I can do if I have a jacket or long sleeved shirt on, is to put my hand inside the sleeve and open it that way

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

The correct way to handle this would be to use a disposable paper product. Most places still have a paper towel dispenser along side the air hand dryer, you're supposed to use that.

Besides the point, most people don't know how to properly wash and dry their hands. There's a technique to both that actually improves cleanliness a lot and reduces overall waste.

I never use air based hand dryers. Paper towel for life. Some places use maze patterns instead of doors, which I generally like but usually requires some extra work with air handling to make sure the bathroom air stays in the bathroom, and a bit more floor space to provide the room for the maze pattern. Those restrooms are usually the ones without paper towel, I don't mind, I just have moist hands for a few minutes afterwards.

All of this can be googled. So I won't go into more detail, but the majority of people couldn't possibly give fewer fucks about handwashing or hand drying properly. So I expect most won't even try to learn how to do things better, ever. They just go with whatever their parents taught them as a child and never question it again. Bluntly, your parents probably did the same, so you're probably working off of 50+ year old advice on hand washing.

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