The man that should stop Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
It’s stunning that he can say and do so much.. terribleness.. and still even have a chance at the presidency (again).
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the dems seem as helpless to run this geriatric conservative as the gop are to prevent an actual fascist dictator wannabe from successfully running for office.
how can both these massive parties suck so fucking hard
Because voting in the primaries seems anathema to the young progressives who want to change.
I'm glad I'm a progressive that votes in the primary. I plan to vote in more progressives myself.
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And you are proposing what?
i dont... i kinda think were all fucked. the only action possible here is to just keep voting lesser evil.
i used to hope, but that runs out after the first few decades
They way to fix things is voting reform. But it can't be just any reform.
We have to ditch Ordinal voting systems. Every single one of them leads to some degree of two party dominance, with voters having to prioritize strategy over their own needs, because not doing so means they will be actively punished.
Cardinal systems are the only way to escape. Strategic voting becomes less necessary and less impactful.
My current favorite system is STAR. It takes all the great ideas of the best cardinal voting system (Score) and adds in an automatic runoff that greatly reduces the impact of clone candidate attacks.
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A no holds barred Yu-Gi-Oh match. Winner becomes president, loser cleans the white house bathrooms for the next 4 years.
Will there be some kid competing while possessed by an ancient pharoah?
I believe you're under the mistaken impression that u/originalucifer is actually running one or both of these parties.
I never said this nor do I believe it. But engaging in doomscrolling and screaming into the void is not going to do much so I'm looking for ideas. Yes they are all way too old, there's no denying that. The question is: now what?
Because the electorate is doing little to nothing at the local scale to change voting methodology. Until that happens in a broad fashion, the two parties will continue to be a problem.
Edit: you can downvote all you want, it doesn't change reality.
bOtH SIdeS
uhhh no.
"both sides" is pretending both suffer from the same issue... i have clearly not made that case
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I'm pretty old. Biden is hands down the best president in my lifetime.
He's way older than I am, which is a problem, but he's also a national hero for beating Trump in 2020 and making the win stick, which was more difficult than it seemed.
Since then he's been great on jobs, infrastructure, defense, and a host of other issues. Not that I agree with him on everything, but to call him a run of the mill conservative Dem, as some do in these comments, is almost slander. He's an old-school Democrat who survived all the way through the Reagan revolution. The old-school Dems ran the country for almost 50 years from about 1933 to 1980, and did a pretty good job.
In 2020 I was 100% behind Liz Warren and disliked Biden. I thought he'd lose, but this year I'll gladly vote for him. If he beats Trump for good, they'll be making statues of him.
I have never approved of the person I voted for president
Voting isn't a valentine. It's a chess move. —Rebecca Solnit
Except the chess piece doesn’t honestly care what you think and a couple thousand people in flyover country can put you in checkmate regardless of how you move.
Voting is more like beating your head against a wall. If enough people join you then you might just move the building. But don’t expect it to feel good afterwards.
I fundamentally disagree. If this was at all true, Republicans wouldn't still be working so hard to make it difficult to vote in red states.
The point isn't for your vote to feel good; if that's your end goal, you are naive. The point is that it's strategic to an end, something the Fascists understand quite well.
The fascists vote entirely on feeling, it’s why Trump and MAGA have taken over the GOP who’s “strategy” lost them their party.
Like I said: it works if enough people also beat their head against the wall. And the building will shift about a sixteenth of an inch. And we’ll all celebrate the power of democracy and how awesome it is we do this ever four years.
Oh, and for the preceding year there’s bullhorns playing at all hours and if you don’t listen to them you’re not and informed head-basher
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Forfeiting is a chess move, yes.
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Yes, welcome to politics.
Blah blah blah it's January for crying out loud. Most voters haven't even actually started thinking about the race. Only the terminally online and talking heads are thinking about this.
Of course Biden's unpopular compared with a nebulous "what if" alternative. Shit, the real comparison people answering these polls are probably making is him against Obama. Obama was only fighting the Great Recession, not a global pandemic and a wannabe dictator with all his fans and an expansionist Russia with greedy stockholders driving CEOs to gouge consumers under cover of "inflation" and on and on.
I'm not even saying Biden's approval rating will get better between now and November. But if Trump is the Republican nominee, I think Biden has a pretty strong shot at winning anyway. As long as we all get out and vote.
Trump's dislike is going to run even higher (and a lot deeper).
See you in June when prices come down across the board, wages rise, and more conservatives die of preventable diseases.
Those are the things we like about Biden! That is like saying " You don't like Trump because the COVID vaccine was developed while he was president."
No, I am pretty sure there are other things that would make people not like him.
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