Nothing like performative legislation that does (almost) nothing other than turn on a spotlight on the latest group to be hated and dehumanized.
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On the other hand, doesn’t this take the wind out of the sails of most of the anti-trans block’s arguments? With this “what-if” banned all of the remaining arguments are pretty clearly irrational, religious, or generally indefensible.
The bigot in my family argues "the trans" are coming for "his kid" in public restrooms. See, they dont need rationality. Im convinced hes terrified of getting beat up by a man in a dress.
"You would understand if you had a daughter".
Sure thing, buddy. If you say so.
This is obviously an enormously complicated topic that there's a lot of misinformation and opinions out there on, but ultimately speaking my problem with it, other than the fact it will very obviously be applied in a discriminatory way, is that bigots don't stop pushing because you give them an inch.
I'm guessing intersex kids are still going to still going to have surgeries performed on them without their consent, though.
I'm in no way equating the two because non-consensual surgeries on intersex kids have potential to be far more damaging, but I'm sure infant male genital mutilation will continue as well.
This executive order specifically bans those, assuming the state of being intersex is relevant to the surgery and the surgery is cosmetic.
They gonna ban jetpacks next? Maybe a ban on breeding snipes? Ohio is going to pass the superhero registration act?
Jetpacks are a thing now though
Yes, but exceptionally rare. Anyone who has one is probably an outlier, and banning them from schools, for examle, would be a waste of time.
eh... you may not have noticed, but jetpacks are real now. they've been around in various forms for a few years and are getting kinda impressive.
Gender affirming surgery is also real. It is almost never performed on minors, but can be performed on intersex minors. Except not in Ohio anymore apparently.
But i guess they are going to continue cutting off parts of male infant genitalia....
Well sky daddy says to do that, so we must listen to sky daddy.
It's worse because most of that in the US isn't done in the name of religion but of tradition based on pseudoscience. There isn't even an invisible man excuse.
It's like corn flakes or graham crackers... It's only around to keep crazy people from masturbating.
How is that even something that falls under the authority of an executive order? Seems like pretty dubious legal ground anyway.
What about intersex infants?
Imagine being born with ovaries but no vagina. Does that happen? I'm pretty sure the Republican plan for them would be to wait until they are dying of sepsis before taking the minimum necessary steps to keep them alive.
Yes, let's outlaw a thing that barely happens at all. Because that's the most important issue that needs to be focused on.
Are we going to regulate by law medical treatment now? This is the party of "small government"??? More like party of "Culture warriors".
Of course coming right after the victory on HB68 getting shot down (thankfully!).
Because surgeries are very rare for anyone under 18, I think the bigger impact to DeWine's order is the requirement of youth or ADULTS needing to have psychiatric care AND endocrinologist involved as pre-reqs before starting any kind of medical care. This is a bigger deal because some people will be blocked by the religious therapists out there, and in smaller communities finding and endo can be hard and more expensive. This definitely hurts the trans community.
And just when Ohio was starting to pass some good laws, this happens.