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[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every day Israel continues to prove its true intentions and every day America, Canada, France and the UK show how easy it is to continue to support genocide.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Civilian deaths from the Iraq invasion: 220,000 out of 45.5 million = 0.5%

Civilian deaths from the Gaza invasion: 30,000 out of 778,000 = 3.8%

Iraq invasion: 9 years. Gaza invasion: 3 months.

Civilian deaths from Russian bombing of Ukraine: ~10,000 over 2 years.

[–] Arete@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The population of Iraq at the time of the invasion was ~25 million, and was spread out over a large rural area. The population of the Gaza strip is 2 million in a small urban area. Using the correct numbers, you get about 1% and 1.5%, respectively. To be honest I'm surprised the Gaza death toll is so low given the population density and sheer number of bombs dropped. With all the genocide rhetoric I would've thought 10%+.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I was using Gaza city, not Gaza strip. And Iraq added 20 million people since the invasion? Wow, thought it would be less.

[–] Arete@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

To be fair to you though all of these boundaries are kind of arbitrary. Most bombing is in Gaza city, western Ukraine has been largely unaffected, etc. A better metric if we're looking at "callous indifference to collateral damage" might be simply civilian deaths per bomb dropped, although the use of human shields in Gaza may throw that off as well.

[–] idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 8 months ago

It's amazing Israel has been able to target 30,000 civilians, and not a single terrorist.

Oh wait, who reported that 30k number? Qatar-controlled Al-jazeera who also happens to have funded Hamas? Yeah - sounds like honest reporting.