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I've just finished reading the last of the books, and I'm pretty excited to see what they do with the series.

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[–] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (6 children)

"Already, there’s been some controversy surrounding the casting of Skarsgård, a cis man, as Murderbot, an android with no sexual characteristics (because, in Murderbot’s words, why would it need them, it’s not a sex bot)."

I really hope this is a joke that's going over my head. Was the casting department supposed to rely on the wide pool of openly asexual actors?

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well obviously they should have looked at all available robot/cyborgs first. Lol

[–] mayotte2048@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I am envisioning one of those mock audition skits now. C3PO, Marvin the depressed robot, Christoper Walkin for some reason, etc.. All reading Murderbot lines.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In one of the other discussions here, there were a number of people who pictured Murderbot as female, a number male, and some who truly pictured it genderless. For the people who pictured it female, I'm sure a male actor doesn't sit right. To me, casting seems difficult because it's supposed to be somewhat physically imposing, shouldn't have obvious breasts, but also shouldn't be overtly masculine. I'll be curious to see what they do with the actor.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a tough role to cast, since the books never describe what Murderbot looks like at all, beyond "has a face" and "has short hair but no body hair" and "some organic parts on arms but not on legs". And Murderbot can pass as human if someone doesn't know what SecUnits look like. No indication of height, build, complexion, features, nothing. So anyone they cast is going to look wrong to a bunch of readers because their mental pictures can vary so widely.

Mine is somewhere between Gwendolyn Christie and Robocop. But I like Alexander Skarsgard and I'll definitely watch this. He has a good "I am 100% done with everyone's nonsense" expression, which is vital.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He has a good “I am 100% done with everyone’s

nonsense” expression, which is vital. Honestly, that's the key quality for me: someone who can pull off the social anxiety and the disgust with humans while also clearly caring for at least some of them.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Look at the source. This is their schtick.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I'm sure Ezra Miller is free. Hardy har bar

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Being asexual is an orientation, not a gender. Signed, an asexual cis male.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The article said 3 times that Murderbot is an android; Murderbot is not an android, it's a cyborg or construct (with both organic and inorganic parts). Geez.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Author watched too much DBZ

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how they will get the inner monologue and communication between systems on screen. Murderbot talking about his stories or how stupid humans are is the best part

[–] Omnificer@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My guess would be narration by Murderbot's actor for the inner monologue.

The systems communication might partially be handled like how most things handle text messages, with the word bubbles.

I wonder if they'll commit to hiding the actor's face most of the time.

[–] mayotte2048@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That brings up a really good point. A lot of the story is Murderbot describing how they are hacking this or that. It could be really tricky handling that on tv in a way that is entertaining.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe they'll do a Dune and have the characters whisper to themselves half the time.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

So this is being developed by the people responsible for - variously - The Creator, American Pie, and Foundation?

Not exactly inspiring huge confidence in their ability to create thoughtful science fiction that respects and understands the core themes of the source material.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

look, I'm bored. I just want to watch my tv, okay?

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Me too, but the stupid humans keep doing stupid stuff.

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I haven't read this series yet but it's on my TBR. Is there some kind of actual justification for the price of these books? The combined total word count of all the books is ~350k, which is 50k words shorter than a few books I've recently read that cost $7-8 each. Meanwhile the entire Murderbot series costs $76 to purchase, most of them being 30k words for $12.

I'm lethargic on both getting around to reading it and not letting those hefty prices color my opinion if I were to read it, so I'm not sure if I ever will.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you're worried about the cost, have you looked into getting it through your library? That's how I did it.

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 0 points 10 months ago

Yeah there's a few ways they could be acquired. I don't do Amazon or Kindle but they appear to be on Kindle Unlimited. They've also apparently been sent out for free a few times. I feel like it puts a bad taste in my mouth either way; even if I could sidestep the cost, by reading them it would still be supporting the books and therefore the gouging of others, in an indirect sense.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Except one, all of them are very short indeed. Tho when I discovered the series, All Systems Red was cheap, probably to get you hooked. I liked them a lot, tho after a while it tends to repeat itself a bit. I'd say buy them one at a time and decide how far you'll go?

I truly enjoyed them.

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Check the first one out of a library, perhaps, to see if you like it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The justification is in murderbot itself. I'd get my hands on one of them and see if you like it. If you don't, then don't bother because the murderbot sure won't bother.

[–] nis@feddit.dk 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I so want to finish the books before this comes out. I just can't remember how far I got in the series :(

[–] minimalfootprint@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really like the books, but the names are so generic. I have to look up the order every time I read them.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 10 months ago

The audiobooks are fantastic btw.

The problem is they're priced as a full book for what are mostly novellas, and I still think "maybe it's worth it..."