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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wish they didn't incentivise deception and bad behavior.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who should be responsible for compliance or for setting rules?

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The platform of course but I'm aware it would most likely be against their best interest. I don't really have a solution, this is just wishful thinking.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's pretty much reddit's approach. On this platform, the community takes over the moderation of all posts without any financial compensation - this is rather unusual as far as larger platforms are concerned. But this approach also presents major difficulties: Reddit has a large number of moderators who manage several very wide-ranging communities/subreddits. In the past, this has led to the problem that Reddit admins have sold their direct "influence" to advertisers and other interest groups. The social media application, in this case Reddit, has little to no influence on this - after all, the admin is not an employee of the company.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

That is how they approached the problem, FB approached it differently 🤷.

Of course, the crowd you want to cater to also matters. FB and Reddit have a completely different crowd, thus, Reddit would have lost a substantial portion of it's users is it approached it like FB did.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Chronological. Completely uncensored. Allow easy blocking of others, including blocking posts/comments from your personal feed using categories or keyword recognition.

Done.

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago

Kinda like cohost

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You feed me topics. I comment on them. Everyone thinks I'm hilarious. That's all.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haha! You're so witty and funny!

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

God damn I love this place!

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

OP you are absolutely histerical! I'm laughing my ass off!

[–] Identity3000@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For anyone who's willing to spend ~15 mins on this, I'd encourage you to play TechDirt's simulator game Trust & Safety Tycoon.

While it's hardly comprehensive, it's a fun way of thinking about the balance between needing to remain profitable/solvent whilst also choosing what social values to promote.

It's really easy to say "they should do [x]", but sometimes that's not what your investors want, or it has a toll in other ways.

Personally, I want to see more action on disinformation. In my mind, that is the single biggest vulnerability that can be exploited with almost no repurcussions, and the world is facing some important public decisions (e.g. elections). I don't pretend to know the specific solution, but it's an area that needs way more investment and recognition than it currently gets.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How can this be funded? A workforce is needed for all matters that cannot be automated.

[–] Identity3000@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Funding/resourcing is obviously challenging, but I think there are things that can support it:

  1. State it publicly as a proud position. Other platforms are too eager to promote "free speech" at all costs, when in fact they are private companies that can impose whatever rules they want. Stating a firm position doesn't cost anything at all, whilst also playing a role in attracting a certain kind of user and giving them confidence to report things that are dodgy.

  2. Leverage AI. LLMs and other types of AI tools can be used to detect bots, deepfakes and apply sentiment analysis on written posts. Obviously it's not perfect and will require human oversight, but it can be an enormous help so staff can see things faster that they otherwise might miss.

  3. Punish offenders. Acknowledging complexities with how to enforce it consistently, there are still things you can do to remove the most egregious bad actors from the platform and signal to others.

  4. Price it in. If you know that you need humans to enforce the rules, then build it into your advertising fees (or other revenue streams) and sell it as a feature (e.g.: companies pay extra so they don't have to worry about reputational damage when their product appears next to racists etc). The workforce you need isn't that large compared to the revenue these platforms can potentially generate.

I don't mean to suggest it's easy or failsafe. But it's what I would do.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

The ultimate social media site, in my perspective, would probably have the simplicity and functionality of Side 7, the content execution methodology of TV Tropes, the expandability of Discord, the rule enforcement of ProBoards, the fanbase of YouTube, the adaptability of Hypothesis, and the funding of Pogo (classic Pogo, not modern Pogo, and no I don't mean Pokémon Go).

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I think social media should be 18+ only. In fact, I don't think anyone under 18 should have phones that connect to the internet at large, only things like maps or whatnot to get around. I think this would solve a lot of fundamental phone addiction problems we're seeing from our youth.

I also think filters of any kind should be banned on social media. They're fun, but not worth the damage they cause.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Advertising revenue should at least pay a proportion of the cost of getting sausage lips.

Secondly, interacting with social media should be conducted using rotary dial phones. That'll fcuk every generation which is overly keen on using it.

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remove voting. Remove likes. Remove any semblance of a point based system.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

How to determine which posts are displayed on the frontpage? If it should be a platform that works similar to reddit or lemmy.