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[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is the same as "HR cares about the company, not the employees"

[–] JustinHanagan@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly. FTA:

"Trust and safety” departments are kinda like “Human Resources” departments. They exist to help the company avoid expensive lawsuits and expensive PR blunders. These departments, I assume, are comprised of good-hearted people who care deeply about their work and the well being of others. But they are fighting a battle that the companies do not actually want to end.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 1 points 8 months ago

FYI "comprised of" is not a thing; you mean "composed of". The correct way to use "comprise," if you're interested, is like "the United States comprises fifty states". Technically you should mention DC and the various US territories etc as well, since comprise should indicate all of the parts.

[–] multicolorKnight@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Everything in a corporation exists to benefit the corporation.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Trust and Safety? Is this the new buzzword for HR, a la People Empowerment?

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, it's more like "policy enforcement".

Ostensibly it means "if our policy forbids Nazis, then you can trust us that there won't be Nazis engaging with your content on our site."

But really, the policy doesn't forbid Nazis.

[–] JustinHanagan@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Exactly, well said.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

At my previous company the department went through various names over the years, ending up as "People Experience" when we parted ways.

I think Trust and Safety would probably be for an analogous department focused on the users, not the employees.

[–] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

That would be people & culture

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 5 points 8 months ago

I've seen them use Tallent and Culture unironically. Yes and also shorten it to T&C

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to think the author's concern is too genuine given that they're publishing on Substack

[–] JustinHanagan@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

When I switched to Substack it was just a Mailchimp alternative (I don't think Mailchimp moderates what they send out either). They were a service, not a platform. But since then Substack has added a lot of social elements. And now that I've been made aware of their stance, I'm planning my exit ASAP.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Why users are always the ones screwed?

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

A "user" is anyone who walks through the public park and picks up a gadget that someone else left there.

They poke at it for a while, not knowing who built it or who dropped it in the park. It does some cool stuff.

Sometimes they can wiggle it and it makes colors that their friends enjoy. Maybe someone built this thing just to be a fun toy to play with?

They put it in their pants pocket and walk on.

Once in a while, the thing they picked up in the park just spontaneously catches fire and burns their pants off, leaving them naked in the middle of the town square and really embarrassed.

But usually, a "user" can mess around with technology crap and not get burned.

Until, y'know, they do.

And then it's supposed to be their fault.


Hey, thing-builders: If the thing you built hurts people, you should fix that. "They picked it up, it's okay if it burns their pants off" is not a good excuse.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While I agree with your premise, people also need to be aware that some random thing they started fiddling with can be problematic, and should maybe do some basic research on what they're fiddling with. We absolutely need to hold creators responsible for their creations, but this also shouldn't absolve people of using their brains and thinking critically.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Then it should at least come with a warning label, and perhaps, with the ability to block children from picking it up or playing with it.

Those who create dangerous things have a duty to warn others of their potential dangers before leaving them haphazardly about.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

I think its morally acceptable to make products designed to hurt the user and other people.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

"Useds" is a more appropriate term

[–] snail_hatan@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Down voted because substack enables nazis.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Good lad/die, fuck substack