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Lae'zel and Shadowheart can be mean sometimes, and it's okay to embrace women in video games like them.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody's afraid of them. This article created its own problem to complain about.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Lae’zel and Shadowheart

This feels a lot more like the author is upset by the way these two were done, and is in turn projecting that upon "other gamers".

[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You never met one of those capital G Gamers who have never seen a woman that's not their mom? The ones that get mad if there are black/gay/trans people in their videogames because of "muh escapism"?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

Then you are luckier than me.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thankfully, I only know those gaymurrs from youtube videos that are brightly titled as [game] IS WOKE PROPAGANDA, so it's easy to avoid them.

[–] 5200@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So the author argues that unlikable characters should be liked because: buzzword, buzzword, woman, buzzword and that the customers are wrong. It's art, it's subjective, and that means people can also not like it. If it is indeed the case a vocal group of customers are finding it hard to get into the game because some characters are perceived as badly written, I doubt this is because they are all misogynistic neck-beards.

[–] falsem@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, "people don't like the racist authoritarian because she's a woman" sure is a hot take.

[–] Frogster8@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

What...? This isn't a real issue

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The least important part of a character is their sex.

[–] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well that’s not true at all. Men and women have different life experiences and that often is what drives a narrative.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -4 points 10 months ago

Maybe to you.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Minthara, a companion who could previously only be recruited by joining her side and more or less committing genocide on a grove full of tieflings, can now simply be knocked out and talked to at a later point in the game where all of that drama can be ignored.

Minthara was being mind-controlled. When she's free, she's still evil but not that evil - she even asks the player character what his excuse for killing the tieflings is, since he wasn't mind-controlled.

(Knocking her out still doesn't make sense, but mostly because at that point in the game the player has no in-character reason to think that she's special aside from the fact that all the other enemies are goblins and she's a ~~Forgotten Realms BDSM sex symbol~~ drow.)

[–] Frogster8@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Nice... A big old spoiler

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I blew her the fuck up. I didn't think she was a companion until I looted her and she had underwear and a backpack. Strangely only companions wear underwear in BG3. I don't know what's up with that.

[–] RileyIsBad@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Look, I'm a lesbian, all hot girls intimidate me.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago

Do people actually have a problem with them?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I'm ~~aroused~~ impressed by strong women, physically and emotionally. And in a world that can do better by them, this is balancing the scales.

I also want to say that as we saw with Legend of Korra, if they're interesting characters and are 'cool' nobody will care about gender.