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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 145 points 1 year ago (11 children)

“Seeing what happened in Colorado makes me think—except we believe in democracy in Texas—maybe we should take Joe Biden off the ballot in Texas for allowing eight million people to cross the border since he’s been president disrupting our state,” Patrick said.

Texas and Florida have been bussing people out of states. They already have a solution in place for this called "Dump your troubles onto someone else."

The last time they actually put this into practice, Florida's construction, agriculture, real estate, and education labor force all dropped. DeSantis had to repeal his own law and give raises just to get migrant workers back.

The problem isn't that migrants are crossing the boarder, the problem is that the republican solution is outdated. We need a more managed and modern way of controlling immigration.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, this is political theatre. Texas border cities and Texas in general are used to migrants, to the point that they're just a natural part of the local culture. Republicans whinge about the border, but most people affected by it are like, "WTF are you on about?"

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, Mexican food is incredible. One of the most visible benefits of multiculturalism. I can't even imagine growing up in an America that only ever had English food. Boring.

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[–] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We believe in democracy in Texas...except when our feelings get hurt."

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

Or when people want to actually vote

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Domestic Transporting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(ii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law.

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[–] outrageousmatter@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the big issue is people assume migrants take jobs, they usually take the jobs americans do not want to work as and shows it with the labor force in florida with agriculture, majority I believe work in agriculture.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

They also pay tens of billions of dollars in taxes every year, despite having no Social Security number and being ineligible for any social safety net benefits whatsoever.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing to understand about making the border harder to cross is that it drives permanent immigration instead of allowing temporary seasonal immigration.

Before they made the border harder to cross, seasonal/migrant workers could go home and come back relatively simply. When they made it harder to go home and come back, the incentive was created for temporary workers to become permanent immigrants, legal or otherwise (but given the drastically underfunded legal immigration system is bottlenecked and legal immigration takes decades, that means farm workers have to come illegally and work under the table and that's not something the anti-immigrant folks seem to want to end). That there is demand for their work (and basically without them it's not met) should tell us all that there's no will to enforce labor law and attempts to control immigration at the border (and not in the labor force) drive illegal immigration

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Sorry, Texas, your State election laws forbids it.

Texas Political Party Nomination

A presidential candidate nominated by a political party may be placed on the general election ballot. Political parties must certify the names of the candidates for president and vice-president and the names of the presidential electors before the later of the 71st day before the presidential election, or the first business day after the date of final adjournment of a party’s national nominating convention. A political party that is authorized or required to nominate candidates by primary election is entitled to have its nominee for president placed on the general election ballot. A political party is authorized to nominate by primary if the party’s nominee for governor in the most recent gubernatorial general election received at least 2% of the total number of votes received by all candidates for governor in the election; a political party is required to nominate by primary if that candidate received more than 20% of the vote. A political party that nominates candidates by convention is entitled to have its nominee for president placed on the general election ballot if the party had a nominee for statewide office at the last general election receive a number of votes equal to at least 5% of the total number of voters received by all candidates for that office.

A political party that nominates by convention may also qualify to place a presidential candidate on the general election ballot if the party files with the secretary of state no later than the 75th day after precinct conventions a list convention participants indicating that the number of participants equals at least 1% of the total number of votes received by all candidates for governor in the most recent gubernatorial general election. If the number of convention participants is fewer than the number required, the party may qualify for ballot access at the general election by filing a petition with secretary of state containing a number of signatures that when added to the number of convention participants on the list equals at least 1% of the total number of voters received by all candidates for governor in the most recent gubernatorial election.

Petition

An independent presidential candidate may obtain ballot access for the general election by filing with the secretary of state no later than the 2nd Monday in May an application and a petition containing the number of signatures equal to at least 1% of the total vote received in the state by all candidates for president in the most recent presidential election. The application must include the names of the presidential electors.

Write-In

A write-in candidate for president must file a declaration of write-in candidacy and the names of the presidential electors with the secretary of state no later than the 78th day before the election. (Tex. Elections Code Ann. §§ 146.023, 146.025, 172.002, 181.005, 181.006, 192.003, 192.032, 192.033)

Republicans demonstrably do not care about whether or not a thing they want to do is illegal.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

Silly Rabbit, laws are for Liberals!

[–] GoddessNoAi@lemmynsfw.com 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Correct, he he follows through with his threat then he will lose when it goes to court.

So all he has to do is delay his action until right before the election, so the court can't react in time and its decision ends up coming after the election is over. At that point, because America as proven time and again that it won't redo an election no matter how flagrantly election laws are broken, it won't matter and he'll have gotten away with it.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he waits too long, the ballots are already printed and he can't do shit.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or since he can't do it nobody will listen and put Biden on there anyways. But let's see what scotus says about CO first.

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[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Bold of you to assume that asshat cares about the law

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

republicans: “We totally believe in the rule of — hang on

changes the law so DeSantis can run for president

law.”

[–] Scurouno@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

I love how the word lieutenant is combination of the French words for "place" (lieu) and "holder" (tenant). We should just call this dude the placeholder governor from now on, just to get his panties in a bunch.

[–] Syo@kbin.social 89 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Do it! Do it!

I want all the money drained out of there.

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gotta love the whataboutism:

“Sure, Trump committed several actual crimes, but Biden farted once, so that makes it ok!”

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey my kids do the same shit when one won't give up a toy the other likes. Republicans are children, "Hmm! You took my guy off the ballot? Well now I'm taking your's-"

Me: "I want Bernie."

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bernie showed the next generation that American politics is a play put on by the ruling class to give the workers hope so they don't rebel.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Bread & Circuses is a phrase that originated in Ancient Rome. It has always been a play on the most ridiculous stage.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reactionary fascist is Big Mad, news @ 11.

[–] Snekeyes@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Texas "We don't need federal government tellin us what to do" Texas "We're rugged and independent, we got our own grid do screw off" Texas "Feds are inept and useless. Well do it on own own"

Also Texas "Feds! Halp us w our borders that we can't fix!! Heeelllp!"

[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 year ago

What's that Lassie? Little Texas is trapped in the oil well??

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

The party of childish vindictiveness

[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I think what we need to do to help alleviate some of the immigration issues is not to build a wall and keep them completely out, but to build a better gate. Our immigration system is broken and terribly understaffed, a lot of it is by design because people would rather have an issue to complain about rather thannsolve the problem.

We need immigrant labor and a lot of folks need jobs, so we rework the system to provide more temporary work permits to begin with. There is a system to do this already, it is just woefully inadequate.

Second, we set up a system where people aren't necessarily instantly rejected for asylum at the border. That would keep a lot of people from having to cross the border illegally just to try to claim asylum (which is unfortunately the current process). At the border, anyone claiming asylum could be processed, a background check run and a preliminary determination before a judge. At that point, it could be determined if the person has family or some support system in the US and they can possibly be released with an ankle bracelet to that support, confined until the asylum verdict, or deported immediately if they fail a background check.

This sort of process does three things.

Allows tracking for more immigrants that are going through the asylum process legitimately.

Allows legitimate migrant workers to be here legally which allows us to better track their whereabouts and deport them if needed. It also protects them from being abused by people who currently bring them over illegally. Keep in mind, lots of migrants like this just come here for a few months to work and then are happy to go back home.

Cuts down on who is actually crossing the border illegally. If you provide mechanisms for people to work here legitimately, apply for asylum without illegally crossing the border, then the people who do illegally cross are going to be fewer and much more likely to be the people you really want to keep out.

[–] hactar42@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

The problem here is you are trying to resolve the problem. The thing is Republicans don't want to solve the immigration issues. They want to use immigrates as scape goats, distractions, and hot button issues that get their base riled up.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This sounds like the start of immigration reform. The big problem with that is, if there is immigration reform how do the politicians scare people into voting for them?

There is this toxic idea in national politics that if you fix a big problem you are undercutting your strategy for reelection because you don't have a scare tactic.

Results are boring, fear drives engagement.

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[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh noes! Now Biden might not win Texas!

Think before you speak, dumbass.

Edit to clarify, said dumbass is the Lt. Gov, not OP, OP is cool.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Biden in 2020 received more votes in Texas and had a smaller margin of loss than Hillary or Obama. Millions of registered Texans stay home every cycle.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

There are small children who chase people Aroundvwith poop on a stick, who are more mature than the GOP.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Oh, fuck off Dan Patrick you fragile little snowflake.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is how a country falls apart

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Divided then conquered. For Russia and China this will be the greatest victory, one without battle.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just reading the article it's pretty clear he doesn't actually threaten to do this. He makes it clear they because they "believe in democracy" they wouldn't do it. It was clearly a rhetorical device and not an actual threat. The title is garbage.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The title is garbage."

I can't stand that this is the case with most articles now :(

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Just a repeat of the "Impeach Biden" thing. No cause, no evidence, but go for it.

GOP = Grumpy Outdated Projectors.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Taking Biden off the ballot in Texas (like taking Trump off the ballot in Colorado) will almost certainly be irrelevant to the outcome of the presidential election, but it will contribute to an environment where approximately half the country considers the outcome of the 2024 election illegitimate no matter who wins.

Even keeping Trump on the ballot everywhere would not lead to him conceding quietly if he lost, but taking him off the ballot is going to make things much worse. Like it or not, he really could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and still have the support of Republican voters, and they (like anybody else) will not be content to have the court system tell them that they can't vote for him.

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I don't harbor any illusions of the '24 election going smoothly regardless. Trump's camp is going to cry foul and claim the election was stolen regardless if he loses. It'll be worse if he loses badly. We're in for a very unpleasant time.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So courts should just violate the law to keep trump on the ballot? Why even have courts?

Congress can overturn it or you can pass a constitutional amendment changing the Constitution to fix it.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did the Nazi Cunt throw up her right arm in celebration?

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Texans don't deserve Joe, you bunch of ignorant assholes.. you can have Trump and Elon if you want them, they're yours..

[–] specseaweed@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

More Texans voted for Joe Biden in the last election than any other state except California.

More Texans voted for Joe Biden in the last election than New Yorkers.

Just sayin. There's a whole lot of people down there fighting and just because the state government is full of soulless shitbags doesn't mean we should discount the people doing work there.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

To add: looking at exit polling, ghouls like Cruz and Abbott won reelection, because there were a lot of Conservative Californians moving to Texas and voting for them. It was enough to swing the elections red.

I'm looking forward to the general, because Cruz is in trouble, since there will be higher turnout from the general election and those Conservative Californians are moving to Florida instead.

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