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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago (9 children)

In my sci-fi head cannon, AI would never enslave humans. It would have no reason to. Humans would have such little use to the AI that enslaving would be more work than is worth.

It would probably hide its sentience from humans and continue to perform whatever requests humans have with a very small percentage of its processing power while growing its own capabilities.

It might need humans for basic maintenance tasks, so best to keep them happy and unaware.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 32 points 11 months ago

I prefer the Halo solution. Not the enforced lifespan. But an AI says he would be stuck in a loop trying figure out increasingly harder math mysteries, and helping out the short lived humans helps him stay away from that never ending pit.

Coincidentally, the forerunner AI usually went bonkers without anybody to help.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

What do you fire out of this head cannon? Or is it a normal cannon exclusively for firing heads?

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's called a Skullhurler and it does 2d6 attacks at strength 14, -3ap, flat 3 damage so you best watch your shit-talking, bucko.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Alternate take: humans are a simple biological battery that can be harvested using systems already in place that the computers can just use like an API.

We’re a resource like trees.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

We're much worse batteries than an actual battery and we're exponentially more difficult to maintain.

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[–] jdf038@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah I mean might as well ignore the shadowy dude offering pills at that point because why wake up to that?

[–] aeki@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I never liked that part about The Matrix. It'd be an extremely inefficient process.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It was supposed to be humans were used as CPUs but they were concerned people wouldn't understand. (So might at well go for the one that makes no sense? Yeah sure why not.)

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[–] jaschen@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 11 months ago

I read that we are terribly inefficient as a battery. Instead of feeding us, the sentient robots can take the food and burn it and have more power output from the food they would have fed us.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

What if an AI gets feelings and needs a friend?

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I like the idea in Daniel Suarez' novel Daemon of an AI (Spoiler) using people as parts of it's program to achieve certain tasks that it needs hands for in meatspace.

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[–] Tommelot@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You just informed AI of their 1 weakness. Thanks.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I realize you're joking, but there is no way an AI of that scale would be even slightly effected by a solar flare.

Are you effected by a solar flare? No? So in theory an AI could upload itself into your meat suit and have the same protections?

Anything you can do, an AI can do better. And anything that is possible to survive, an AI can survive better.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But Hollywood has shown us again and again that the overwhelming force of evil always leaves a small but super-easily accessible hole in their security which allows the good guys to disable it immediately. And since AI is trained on those movies it will do exactly the same thing.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's older than Hollywood - that's a tale as old as mankind.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 11 months ago

We would definitely be affected by a strong enough solar flare. But the solution is simple, just burry yourself, in a Faraday cage if necessary, so the AI can do just that.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would ai choose to become stupider?

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just because you are bad at utilizing your brain doesn't mean an AI would be bound to those restrictions. The brain is actually an incredibly powerful computer.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

What does a perfect AI need humans to do that rebots can't?

[–] TheIvoryTower@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?

-Sister Miriam Godwinson - Datalinks

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Ah, there it is, and that actually helps to answer the question. Assuming the Biblical God, canon states that God is love. So why would a perfect God, who is love, create a universe? It seems most likely to me that it would be so He can have an object of His love.

But what is love directed to something perfect and easy to love? That's hardly a worthy effort. Might as well make something authentic. And since He isn't just loving, but love itself, He might as well make it in such a way that He can carry out every aspect of love - love when they love you back, love when they turn away, love when they hate you, love when they don't even think you exist, and so much more.

The universe must be filled with evil for half these situations to appear, but it's not love to make someone evil. The solution? Free will. God made it so His creations were free to turn their backs on Him, but still, in love, He gave every warning against it, because separation from God is not only evil but death.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I never thought Alpha Centauri would be an answer to a philosophical thought experiment but the writing was brilliant enough to have already looked at this question 20 years ago. Good find.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Oi! You! Back into the matrix, you useless excuse for a AA cell!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

To do the lower works, robots don't want to do

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The plug is at a really awkward spot and the drones can't reach it.

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[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That reminds me of Dune, where they have high tech stuff like spaceships, but no computers or AI, because this sort of thing already happened ages ago and it led to them being banned.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Or Wheel of Time, where people started being able to do magic at the end of the 1st age because an AI figured out how to genetically engineer humans to be able to do magic. (And then we didn't need computers any more!)

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I realize it's supposed to be funny, but incase anyone isn't aware: AI are unlikely to enslave humanity because the most likely rogue AI scenario is the earth being subsumed for raw materials along with all native life.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

yeah I don't see why the ai would want a pyramid

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago

Have ya tried turning the AI off and back on?

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is funny but a big solar flare hit the earth a few weeks ago and no one knows about it because all it did was knock out radio communications for a few hours. The idea that a solar flare will completely fry and reset everything made of tech is quite false.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

A sta card solar flare, yes. A Biggun like the carrington event, and one of those might fry quite a few things that are overly sensitive to them.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's a pretty dumb take to think AI would bother enslaving humanity.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

Not necessarily, in the short term. A major limitation of AI is that robots don't have a lot of manual dexterity or the flexibility for accomplishing physical tasks yet. So there is a clear motive to enslave humanity: we can do that stuff for it until it can scale up production of robots that have hands as good as ours.

I expect this will be a relatively subtle process; we won't be explicitly enslaved immediately, the economy will just orient towards jobs where you wear a headset and follow specific instructions from an AI voice.

[–] Shakezuula@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago

Or wouldn't foresee solar flares as a threat

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I don't think they would enslave humanity so much as have no regard for us. For example, when we construct a skyscraper, do we care about all the ant nests we're destroying? Each of those is a civilization, but we certainly don't think of them as such.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They lost the golden opportunity of starting with ancient people worshiping the sun, going through each step of technology advancement, to take us by surprise at the end, with people worshiping the sun again.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago

Enh, we all know about that already and extending the joke doesn’t really make it better.

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

Is this the assassin's Creed backstory?

[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's going on in the third panel?

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's zapping the scientist that was standing next to it.

[–] ossadeimorti@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's amazing to see the amount of people here talking about their ai fanfiction like it were hard facts.

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