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Cardinal convicted of embezzlement in Vatican financial trial sentenced to 5 1/2 years
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Fuck a child, get moved. Fuck with the money—go to jail. Smh
this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2023
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It wasn’t clear where the suspects would serve their time, if the convictions are upheld on appeal. The Vatican has a jail, but Torzi’s whereabouts weren’t immediately known and it wasn’t clear how or whether other countries would extradite the defendants to serve any sentence.
I honestly wonder what the Vatican city jail would be like for people serving a sentence like this. My first thought on 5.5 years is "where the hell are they going to put him."
Edit:
Per wikipedia
The Vatican has no prison system, apart from a few cells for pre-trial detention.[10] People sentenced to imprisonment by the Vatican serve time in Italian prisons, with costs covered by the Vatican.[11]
I'm surprised Italy will house prisoners found guilty of violating canon law.
Edit 2: It's part of the lateran treaty, which is as good as a constitutional document for Italy
With current government it could... Jokes a aside, it is not about the ten commandments, vatican have a civil law mostly inspired by the Italian one
Shoulda raped a kid
I remember there being prostitutes, but this is all I could find: https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/gods-bankers-the-finance-scandal. Are these the same people? They might have changed their name because they have the same titles.
His critics says Tirabassi is not the typical Vatican investment manager, but his pedigree as a courtroom draft pick is undeniable. They say he blackmails Vatican officials, threatens rivals’ families, and celebrates business deals by paying for parties with prostitutes. And in 2020, Italian police found millions in cash and jewels in his houses.
I genuinely wonder if Italian prisoners eat better than North Americans in general? Like wine + spaghetti everyday?
The wine isn't chilled, poorly paired, and the spaghetti is cut for the prisoner.
Death Row = Chef Boyardee
Monstrés. To be be fair my wine isn't chilled immediately either, I use an ice mug lol
You forgot to substitute "butter" (margarine) in place of marinara --> margarinera 👺
Edit: are they seriously entitled to wine in prison?! That is wild
Edit: definitely made New Hampshire
Edit: I feel like my real calling is devising elaborate + ironic punishments that actually leave everybody better off and also
teach foolz not to try to teach other foolz lessonz
This should be a violation of civil rights!
He's old. Most likely he won't do real prison time, just "home" prison (I don't know the English word). Anyway, regarding your questions, most likely yes... With the exception of alcohol, that is allowed only on special events. Also, in theory a medical doctor (nutritionist) has to approve the meals. In practice I don't know, I've never been in jail.
This is Vatican jail, so it might be like the Inquisition, who knows? No one messes with the mafia's money.
There are no jails in Vatican city. Prisoners are held in Italian jails. But this guy will likely do zero time in jail. Too old
It said there are 2 jail cells.
Just to temporarily keep people waiting to be transferred to Italy
Not sure if the jail cell cares if the person is there permanently or temporarily, lol.
Pretty vanilla for the Vatican.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“The outcome of this trial tells us that the judges of the tribunal, as is right, acted with full independence based on documentary proofs and witnesses, not pre-confectioned theories,” he wrote in an editorial in Vatican News.
In the end, the tribunal acquitted many of the suspects of many of the biggest charges, including fraud, corruption and money-laundering, determining in many cases that the crimes simply didn’t exist.
The former heads of the Vatican financial intelligence agency, Tommaso di Ruzza and Rene Bruelhart, were absolved of the main charge of abuse of office.
They had argued they couldn’t tip off Vatican prosecutors to the transaction because they had initiated their own cross-border financial intelligence-gathering operation into Torzi after Francis asked them to help the secretariat of state get possession of the property.
Prosecutors traced some 575,000 euros in wire transfers from the Vatican to a Slovenian front company owned by Marogna and said she used the money to buy luxury goods and fund vacations.
Becciu said he thought the money was going to pay a British security firm to negotiate the release of Gloria Narvaez, a Colombian nun taken hostage by Islamic militants in Mali in 2017.
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