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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 172 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Fair and likely but Mary doesn’t fucking know anything.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 90 points 11 months ago (5 children)

True, but these are not the words of innocent men.

Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung told Newsweek in a Saturday email that it is "unprofessional" to ask if the binder was sold to Russia. "What proof do you have?" he asked.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago

It sounds like Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung also has no clue, but he's seen this one enough times to know that his outright denial would probably be contradicted by Trump within the week.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, the ol' Criminal reverse burden/onus of proof. Counter with the old motherly trick, why might I have reason to even need to bring this up with you...

What would Mary do/There's something off about Mary...

[–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It sounds like this story originated with Trump to create a fake news story to distract from the real news of his court cases.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

I don’t think a spokesman would know one way or another.

[–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

This whole binder story smells like the kind of news stories we were fed during the early years of his presidency. It's so 2017, throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

We don't need any new controversies. We need to see the felonies that have already been charged be prosecuted intelligently and effectively.

[–] June@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

Yea, this isn’t news

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't believe it, but only because he's too incompetent to have kept that kind of high treason a secret.

I absolutely would believe that he kept it with his poop magazines and it was stolen, or copied, by the Carpet King of Tampa, or a foreign intelligence asset. Either one is just as likely.

[–] Slwh47696@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's honestly stupid enough that he'd be bragging about the money he made from the sale if he did sell it

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"I think NATO is going to be very surprised...I had the best Generals, they wouldn't be surprised...the traitor generals who supported the election hoax and Joe Biden, they'll be surprised because they aren't good, okay, they're bad, very bad. My dad, very smart, so smart, he always said sell your books when you're done with them. Did you know binders are books? No one knew, but they are. I'm very smart and very good at deals. I make the deals, I sold a book for 50 million dollars, a book? Can you imagine? Joe Biden wouldn't of gotten $20, so dumb. I got the most votes, ever, can you believe that?"

That's my point. I don't believe he sold it to the Russians. I can absolutely believe that his actions directly lead to being aquired by foreign agents, or the Carpet King of Tampa.

[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When Trump hosted the KGB diplomats in the White House, when he confiscated his translators notes after his meeting with Putin, after he betrayed the Kurds, the media would ask, "Why did Trump do this?"

There were always a range of possible reasons, but only one that explained them all with perfect sense. I suggest everyone read American Kompromat by Craig Unger. There is a trail of circumstantial evidence Trump has been a Russian asset since at least 1986.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MxM111@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

At this point, do you really think it will damage him?

[–] yOya@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the description I've heard is correct (that he asked two prostitutes to pee on the bed because Obama slept in it once) there is probably going to be a lot of racism, the peeing itself which is gross, and let's face it the prostitutes were probably underage. I could see that hurting him, give the right is so obsessed with Epstein and grooming, but they've already waved every terrible thing he has done away so you're probably right. The right wouldn't care.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Rules for thee, not gonna make a fucking dent in how is followers perceive him.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

The reveal of his goomba might.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The P in P-tape is pedophilia

He is known to have raped underage girls and pootin has the goods, just as likely through Epstein

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 62 points 11 months ago

why is that pig not in chains

[–] generic@iusearchlinux.fyi 38 points 11 months ago

May have? It would be more surprising news if he didn't.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 29 points 11 months ago

Business is business, isn’t that what he says? Business as usual for a bloke who keeps top secret documents in his spare bathroom.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

May have? This guy would sell his own daughter if he could. And I'm not eve talking about the one whose name he doesn't know, I'm talking about the one he wants to fuck.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's obvious that Trump sold out US intelligence assets across the world, leading to major setbacks in our intel community and the deaths of multiple people, so if this is true... will it make any difference? At all? Trump could come out and declare himself a vassal of the New Russian Empire and his followers would still lick his boots, and 'moderates' would say "Well, what about the DEMONRATS"

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They, in fact, do talk up Russia as though it is some free speech, all the guns you want, libertarian paradise. It's incredible to see.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

all the guns you want

More, even. Now get out there on the front line, maggot.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Fucking duh. Why else would he have taken a fucking truckload of classified docs?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

Oh so she just learned that he may have sold a binder? She wasn't just holding onto this little pearl in order to sell another book was she? Any of Trump's circle, even his ostensibly "nice" niece Mary, is just an opportunist looking to cash in on the chaos.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Newsweek is trash. this is clickbait.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh thank goodness there is no merit to this headline. Oh wait, it is still a plausible situation no matter where you read the headline. Nevermind.

[–] mob@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Damn, we've lowered the bar for journalism to plausible?

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Have you been paying attention to the journalism industry lately? We're lucky to get "plausible" half the time.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is the headline false? I think Mary trump said those words. I'd love to hear why you think they faked this quote.

[–] mob@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you can read the article. I don't see that quote anywhere.

But you also kind of implied "it's fine if it's not true since it's plausible" that's more what I was commenting on

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"One of those possibilities was that the documents inside the binder "were sold or given to Russia," according to her blog post. "

-the article I didn't read, quoting Mary trump's blog

So she at least typed this distinct, concise thought. I said it was plausible because they had found a BOATLOAD of classified docs in trump's possession after he was out of office. Considering this binder the quote is about has not been recovered in any of the raids they performed and with the truth about trump's financial situation coming to light I can picture a means, motive and opportunity. So sure, 'plausible' is the best term I can think of until more solid evidence is presented.

[–] mob@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Ha shit, one of those ads must have popped up and made me jump that paragraph or something. I really did read it and didn't see that the first time through

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Where the fuck are all your patriots on this one?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The binder in question contained raw intelligence that the United States and its North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies collected on Russia's alleged election interference in 2016, when Trump beat his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton for the presidency, among other documents, according to Reuters who spoke with a source familiar with the matter.

"Let me put it this way, if the government ever had evidence Donald Trump purposely handed classified info to a hostile power, he would never see the light of day again," she wrote, who also added that the documents could have also been destroyed, lost, or kept by someone.

Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung told Newsweek in a Saturday email that it is "unprofessional" to ask if the binder was sold to Russia.

Trump wanted to declassify materials in the binder related to the FBI's investigation into Russia's alleged election interference, according to the source.

A federal court document filed in August by journalist John Solomon, who Trump appointed to be a representative authorized to access his presidential records in the National Archives, gives some insight into who had their hands on the missing binder.

On January 19, 2021, just one day before Trump left office, Meadows invited Solomon to the White House to review declassified pages and discuss its public release, according to the court document.


The original article contains 747 words, the summary contains 219 words. Saved 71%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I already assumed this had happened.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please fucking let it be so and soooo public([ly]

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do You thing this would change his ratings?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The only ratings I care about with regard to Donald Trump:

  • Maximum Security
  • 0 Decibels
  • 6 feet under (preferablyest)
  • his genuine leaked Wharton grades + sample submission
[–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh geeze, Trump might have done X very bad thing, claims family member with a grudge with 0 actual information. In my personal news, I might sacrifice goats to worship Satan, so claims my religious aunt who recently discovered I'm not religious.

This is trashy clickbait, Der Orangenführer is an un-American traitor and his crimes need no embellishment.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

Agreed. I despise Trump but we can hold ourselves to a higher standard than getting whipped into a frenzy when someone with a personal vendetta writes a blog post with no new information.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some key info here:

The whereabouts of the binder are currently unknown as it went missing during the last days of Trump's presidency, Reuters' source said.

If he sold it during his presidency, that would have been legal since he had the power to do that at the time.

If he sold it after, he should be locked up since he no longer had the authority to pass on that info.

Most likely I think he just took the documents and burned it since it contains information that the U.S. and "(NATO) allies collected on Russia's alleged election interference in 2016, when Trump beat his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton for the presidency, among other documents."

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Even if he sold it during his presidency, that wouldn’t make the money his. It would need to be documented and delivered through the proper channels, with receipts and confirmations. There is no way it would be legal for a president to sell classsified information and individually profit from it.