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[–] tra@lemm.ee 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blaming the storm on the barometer.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tra@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Ripped it from some French director that was accused of lowering the pepoles morale which supposedly led to france being conquered.

[–] LemmySoloHer@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, because Alex Garland never makes films that provide a cautionary examination and instead is a complete advocate for bringing those dystopian settings to real life. /s

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

The problem is conspiracy theorists seem to have issues with separating fiction from reality. Alex Jones cites loads of films as evidence for the things he's "so right" about. And it does seem to be echoed by his audience. It's whack, I tell you.

[–] ringwraithfish@startrek.website 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I'm hoping it's more like a much needed vaccine for the American zeitgeist. Get people discussing what another civil war would actually look like and hopefully get us to realize the need for civil debates.

I watched the trailer and Jesse Plemens delivery of "Yeah, but what type of Americans" sent shivers down my spine.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

you can't have civil debates when one side isn't willing and are nazi terrorists. they're gonna start a civil war any day now, if historians don't put the start behind our current date, and trying to debate them civilly is letting them win. they're a dying ideology lashing out at a society that's in the process of rejecting them and we need to act accordingly or lots of people will die

[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 7 points 10 months ago

A large portion of people on one side are looking to bring about a world ending apocalypse so they can be raptured. American evangelicals don't care about the world, and are ideologically incapable of civil debate and compromise. When your side is god and the other side is the devil you can't possibly meet in the middle.

[–] Throbbing_Banjo@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

That's the part that's been sticking with me as well.

That, and a creeping dread that 30% percent of the audience is going to view this film as either a masturbatory fantasy or an instructional video, but I imagine that's probably Garland's point.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm so glad they cast him in this

[–] ringwraithfish@startrek.website 6 points 10 months ago

He's such a great actor. He plays the stoic psychopath really well. I couldn't remember his name, so I googled "Walmart Matt Damon" and he came right up.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Like a foreshadowing?

[–] TheMongoose@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Got echos of that old Northern Ireland 'joke' where the gunman asks "yes, but are you a protestant atheist or a catholic atheist".

Chilling.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Says the conspiracy theorists that have been calling for civil war for who knows how long.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

They've only done that because they've been programmed to do so by media!

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not American but I think the whole media, and politicians in your country have been preparing all of you for civil war during the past decade.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Literally 100% projection at this point.

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Am I the only one disapointed this isnt about a bunch of characters from A24 movies fighting each other?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 9 points 10 months ago

You’re gonna be a great broccoli one day.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Everything Everywhere All At Once vs. Dicks: The Musical.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Republicans can all fuck off and die.

[–] Throbbing_Banjo@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's literally a whole right-wing movement who picked their name because it rhymes with "Civil War Two."

But sure, calling attention to the very thing the right has been very loudly advocating for since at least 2008 is "predictive programming."

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lmao. It's a meme. Not a "movement". Those out of the know he is referring to "civil war 2, electric boogaloo"

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Memes and jokes have been used to disguise cultural movements, not just once, but always.

"Just joking" about wanting to kill you, before actually killing you, is not a new idea. There were always people who thought it was "just a joke", then the killing started.

If you are using those jokes and memes, you are helping those movements.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep! The_donald was one big meme fest in the beginning.

There's a whole political science research on it.

Starts as a joke. Some who don't get the joke join and get so loud, they push the jokesters away. Continues to grow and spiral.

Other examples: Earth is flat.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I'm waiting for birds aren't real to be replaced with actual looneytunes that believe 100% in it.

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I've been in this so called right wing movement. It's a bunch of larpers memeing.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

These are the guys who have been auto-fellating over a second civil war for the past 15 years, and they're worried about it now??

You've only known about it for the last 15 years

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

The LARPer has become the LARPee.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Most comments I saw just pointed out that it would be a good day in hell before California and Texas would be working together. Although one person pointed out the possibility of water source issues that both could certainly agree on.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a Canadian ...

Holy shite!

I am desperately hoping this movie wakes people up, cause otherwise ... well, you know.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

The same way don't look up made us take the climate catastrophe seriously lol?

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Aside from Alex Garland reading who's in this movie has me pretty hyped for it, Kirsten Dunst, Nick Offerman (as POTUS), Jesse Plemons, I'll definitely give it a watch.

[–] kpw@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Who cares what conspiracy theorist think?

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

because they do terrorist attacks based on their delusions

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

I care that people listen to them.

[–] joshuanozzi@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s what they want you to who!!!

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 2 points 10 months ago

Not unreasonable