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“The temporary restraining order granted by the Travis County district judge purporting to allow an abortion to proceed will not insulate hospitals, doctors or anyone else from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws,” Paxton said in a statement shortly after the judge’s decision. “This includes first degree felony prosecutions…and civil penalties of not less than $100,000 for each violation.

Paxton added, ominously: “The [judge’s temporary restraining order] will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”

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[–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 83 points 9 months ago (5 children)

What an unbelievable piece of shit. This dude is actually a demon and seriously hateful person. He shouldn't be screaming around at doctors and women for protecting their lives, he should be screaming into pads at a psych hospital.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

He’s a con man and a grifter coddling his base in hopes of more “donations”.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Exactly. A typical conservative.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He should be screaming at the walls of a prison cell, because he's a criminal on top of everything else you said.

[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Shit with legs.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

And unfortunately the Texas Supreme Court agrees with him...

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

File under "more evidence it's not about the life of the fetus"

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The attorney general went on to dispatch letters to three Houston-area hospitals where the doctor who was to perform Cox’s abortion has admitting privileges, threatening them with civil and criminal penalties if the abortion were to take place.

“We feel it is important for you to understand the potential long-term implications if you permit such an abortion to occur at your facility,” Paxton wrote, adding that the hospitals “may be liable for negligently credentialing the physician and failing to exercise appropriate professional judgment, among other potential regulatory and civil violations.”

It's not enough for this shitstain that this poor woman is carrying a baby who will not live anyway, and that the fact of carrying this pregnancy to term will result in serious and possibly deadly health repercussions for her. So he actually wrote to every hospital where her doctor has admitting privileges to warn them that he will criminalize any help they give her unless they, too, force her to carry to term.

The word "monster" is not adequate to describe the amorality and individual hate involved in doing what this piece of filth does daily to the residents of his state.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It also goes against everything the Bible actually says regarding abortion. The mother's life is more important. Hell, purposefully causing a miscarriage was only a fine under Biblical law.

He's a fucking monster & I can't wait to see him incarcerated Federally. I will actually write him to taunt him.

[–] nickles_mcpickles@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Are you able to provide citations?? I have people in my life that need to hear these verses.

[–] Nach@midwest.social 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I hope he needs medical care and every doctor refuses to help. Literal monster.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That would be nice but I don't imagine there are many doctors who would refuse to care for him, because they're both is to care for the sick and wounded and to show them compassion even if they don't deserve it.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Ok then we need to regulate his life too.

[–] Nach@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I agree that would be the most likely outcome in my fantasy scenario. However it brings to mind why are docs not helping these women when faced with jail or losing their license? If they're charged to do no harm how could they stay and practice in Texas knowing they may face a situation where they have to turn away a pregnant woman in crisis?

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My guess would be that because leaving would be difficult to begin with and further if they left then the care that they could have provided may not be provided at all.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Doctors aren’t exactly poor. It’s probably easier for them to relocate than other middle class or rather upper middle class people.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think you're overlooking the fact that most people have families and friends that they cannot easily abandon, which was my thinking in my post.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

yeah i hate that. "Just move thousands of miles away bro, it's easy!"

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

Exactly, there isn't a single state in the entire USA that has an overabundance of medical professionals.

[–] tilgare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They have taken an oath to do no harm, after all. Letting him die would be a mercy to the state of Texas. Literally would save countless lives.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I’m sure they just replace him with someone equally shitty.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Actual monsters. Where the fuck is Paxton's indictment/trial date? Fuck these Cuckservatives 🖕

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He's already been acquitted on corruption charges for his blatant actions. Because Republicans will never vote to hold one of their own accountable.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That was a state impeachment, the person you are responding to is asking about the Federal indictment for Securities Fraud that this shitstain has been under for 8+ years now.

The trial is a reminder that Paxton's legal problems persist even after the Texas Senate acquitted him last month in an impeachment trial on unrelated allegations. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick presided over that trial and has faced intense criticism for taking $3 million from a pro-Paxton group in the lead-up to the trial.

"Unlike the impeachment, this is going to be a fair trial," special prosecutor Kent Schaffer told reporters after the hearing. "This judge is not corrupt. This judge is not on the take."

He should literally be in prison right now.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 9 months ago

That was only the political impeachment. The FBI criminal investigation is still ongoing

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How unusual, I thought Paxton liked avoiding law enforcement for breaking the law. He certainly avoids his own summons.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Wilhoit 's Law:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

To state the obvious, he's the former.

[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just remember, an AG is not a judge or medical professional. They do not judge trials or pass convictions or decide on what course of treatment is appropriate for a patient.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

They don't have to be a Judge to ruin your life. How many people can go months without a job and pay tens of thousands in legal fees because you've been jailed on charges that a judge/jury will later find you innocent.

The AG doesn't have to pay you back for that.

[–] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

But they do decide whether or not to prosecute someone for committing a crime.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I honestly can’t see his angle here. In Ireland, a similar case galvanized the famously culturally catholic population in support of abortion. This would be a slam dunk to very publicly allow as a sign that this is a reasonable law. Not allowing it is obviously, clearly pointless in and of itself, as the fetus is non viable. Not allowing it is politically a show of power, but one that even pro life people historically don’t support. He must just think people are different in Texas and Ireland, but I hope he’s wrong.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 5 points 9 months ago

It's a losing battle, but Republicans (particularly the ones in power) have been responding to that by doubling down for the past thirty years. It convinced their base that it's a display of strength and leadership while everyone else looks on in horror.

I guess we'll see if their strategy ultimately pays off.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then as more prenatal departments close and doctors move out of state many will be confused by why there is this lack of services available and why younger family members are facing a hard time trying to give birth or find the medical support they need.

It wasn't that hard when they were young. Life was just great when they were younger... /s

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I have a feeling that the people who support this guy are also the group that think vaccinating babies is evil and that home births are better.

I literally had a TON of women on Instagram try to attack me for calling out a post saying doctors and hospitals cause more harm than good in the US.

Most of it was along the lines of "women have been giving birth without doctors for thousands of years, our bodies know what to do", all while ignoring the fact that both infant mortality and women's birthing mortality rates have dropped from around 1.5% (of ALL women, not just pregnant women) to 0.015% (don't quote me on that, it's been a while since I looked up the numbers).

I even had one woman say that because I'm a man that I'm not allowed to say anything and her "genetic feminine memory", as if she's some Gao'uld symbiote from Stargate, trumps all "so-called medical doctors degrees".

How do you talk with these people?

[–] meathorse@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are doctors legally bound by the "do no harm" Hippo-oath or have I watched too many shows and it's like the "are you a cop, you gotta tell me" lie?

At this point, the only way forward I see is for all doctors banding together to refuse healthcare to any lawmakers, politicians etc that have restricted healthcare to others. Then just wait for one of them to break a leg, get appendicitis, cancer or a mild car crash...

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think you may be looking at this from a non-doctor/healthcare worker perspective. Typically, people go into healthcare because of a desire to help people. Allowing others to suffer - even objectively "evil" people - is antithetical to their being. Not saying that there aren't doctors who are entirely in it for the money, but I believe those are a minor percentage of the whole.

There is another way forward, and it's happening already: doctors are leaving places that continue to implement shitty laws. Some out of protest to the laws, some out of fear that they may provide proper care for a patient and be sent to jail for it.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The baby has no chance of survival, but under Texas law, there are only two options available to Cox: a vaginal delivery, or a C-section.

Travis County Judge Maya Guerra Gamble heard from both Cox’s lawyers and the state of Texas — whose lawyer argued that Cox didn’t meet the threshold for a medical exception to the state’s multiple abortion bans — earlier this week.

On Thursday, Judge Gamble reportedly teared up as she read her opinion from the bench: “The idea that Ms. Cox wants so desperately to be a parent and this law may have her lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice.” She granted the temporary restraining order, clearing a path for Cox to obtain an emergency abortion.

Cox, Gamble wrote in her opinion, “has already been to three emergency rooms with severe cramping, diarrhea, and leaking unidentifiable fluid.

Texas attorney general Ken Paxton wasted no time threatening anyone who would aid Cox in obtaining an abortion.

“The temporary restraining order granted by the Travis County district judge purporting to allow an abortion to proceed will not insulate hospitals, doctors or anyone else from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws,” Paxton said in a statement shortly after the judge’s decision.


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[–] Jilanico@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

miscarriage of justice

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bring it. I hope this goes all the way to the Supreme Court and they lose. This will spectacularly backfire.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Um.... Our illegitimate "supreme" court is who caused this. This was always their intention. This is all part of the conservative plan for the country.