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Real Talk: Why Is Datadog So Expensive? (thenewstack.io)
submitted 9 months ago by dominiquec@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always figured it was because they have to pay the 27 reps that call and email me monthly begging to set up a meeting because I looked up their service once several years ago and asked for pricing.

There's so much more expensive than the alternatives I really had no choice.

Oh, you went with Splunk, I see. Well, can I get a meeting with you to explain why we're so much better and you would be much happier with us.

No, I'm not going to reinitiate this working completed project and pay three times more for my data munging.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

To be fair, am currently using both tools. DD is so much nicer to use than splunk.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess it's pretty cheap to run stealth ads like this on lemmy, since you only need like 20 up votes to get on everyone's front page.

[–] macgyver@federation.red 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have already been contacted to do as much on my instance

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

You'd think they'd at least try to make it not look like an ad, at least.

[–] DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Bc when entire infra teams rely on your service to operate, and orgs depend on infra, you can charge for that service bc orgs have to pay it, or degrade to cheaper, less robust alternatives - which do exist

Best in class cost $$$

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

They're pretty good, they're better, but they're not that much better than Splunk or Elasticsearch (especially the value with Elasticsearch community) I admit elasticsearch gets pricey if you go corporate.

But Splunk, they're like 80% of the product at 20% of the price

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

New Relic is better. Datadog sucks by comparison.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's data dog?

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

nothing much, you?

[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gotcha!

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Setting up the joke: 3 up doots Delivering the punchline: 27 up doots

🥲

[–] aapepinspace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

A monitoring service for IT systems. It uses an agent that is installed on servers or as a container, that sends metrics and/or logs to Datadog's platform. You can then set up dashboards, notifications and alerting in their webgui.

[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Naemon + Graylog work for us.

[–] pl_woah@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Brand recognition and developer evangelism probably.

Their competitors are good enough that it's not worth it unless your org gets serious ™️ about performance or cost savings.

If you've never used any kind of APM or SIEM or uptime monitoring, you've got a set of competitors to use first. Crawl before you can walk

Your bank account will thank you.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

I mean, have you seen the price of corgis lately?

[–] T4UTV1S@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I just read the article, it's actually pretty interesting.

The TL;DR is that there is so much observable data out there (exponentially more than expected), that Datadog, which isn't optimized to deal with that, caused their prices to need to hike.

There are two options listed as alternatives:

  1. Self host but it might not be cheaper
  2. Buy into a company that is from the ground up focusing on dealing with that massive amount of data.
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean you just read this advertisement?

Then made a comment that sure looks like a 2nd advertisement for it?

I hear Splunk is nice. I don't see them having to place thinly veiled advertisements on social media.

[–] T4UTV1S@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

All due respect (which is none), I don't care what you think. Plus, this isn't even an ad for Splunk, which you'd know if you actually read the article.

Edit: Also, it actually straight up says that the article writer works for a competitor. Braindead comment.

[–] DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

its an incredibly powerful tool. I've seen its usage bloom from simple box health to actually determining cost per month of services. basically going from a "hows our server looking?" to a "we need this tool to achieve our margins"