There are more of us than there are of them. Lots more. Even in PA, MI, WI, and AZ. Could Trump win? Yes. Will Trump win? No. Not if we stop wetting the fucking bed and get out there and beat him. Again.
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Remember, remember, the 5th of November.
Because it's election day in 2024. Plan to take the day off, plan to spend the day voting. It's difficult now, but going to work or staying home will not make voting easier.
If Trump is democratically elected in 2024, we will deserve everything that happens afterwards.
Good thing we have the electoral college to back us up /s
The ads write themselves
Vid of Trump's Day one remark...
Voiceover: "On day two, he'll decide he likes being dictator."
My coworker who is a huge MAGA supporter left his computer logged in while he left an hour early for the day and he had his news feed up. Had to take screen shots of the pure garbage the algorithms feed conservatives.
Beyond a few news articles in there, that actually looks surprisingly balanced.
In my experience it's the inbox/YouTube where it really gets into it. Subscribing to some of these "alternative news" sources brings a deluge of patently false information with dangerous spin to it.
Seeing elderly conservative email inboxes is so sad. Especially if they've ever contributed to a campaign, the "please give me more money" emails can be so abusive.
I wasn't going to dig any deeper. I just wanted to shut it down because it was playing audio.
Decent mix of stories, but has the classic "Biden lying" and very notable lack of, you know, Trump's multiple cases, Ukraine and Russia, and essentially glossing over of Gaza.
I always notice what isn't being reported.
My first thought was "oh hey that's actually a total nothingburger, how nice!" before I realized that my brain automatically glossed over all the Faux News articles an anything mentioning big political figures out of a sense of self preservation.
Still not as bad as I would have thought though.
The sad thing is who are those ads for? Trump supporters don't care, and any "moderate" who is still undecided on Trump at this point isn't really a moderate
I don't think his dictator comments are going to sway anyone that was already planning on voting for him
This is to fundamentally misunderstand the game. Donald wants to fight this fight, it's a winner for his base and a non issue for independents.
In 2016 there were plenty of dire warnings about trump's authoritarian leanings. To a casual voter more concerned about inflation or stagnant wages, well, America didn't descend into fascism last time, seems weird it would happen this time.
That's not to say it's not the most important issue but it's not the winning issue, which is infinitely more important.
Trump proclaiming he will be a Dictator is not the winning message he thinks it is. The Foundling Father's actually documented what should occur if someone declares themselves a King.
Thomas Paine galvanized the American public with the thought that full independence from Britain was possible. It marked an important intellectual phase of the movement when many individuals in the North American colonies began to think that there were two alternatives that were now possible: an alternative to British rule and an alternative to rule by a single man.
In these passages Paine worries about a newly independent America reverting to a monarchy. Paine thought an agitator like Massanello might prey on discontent to to take over the government and declare himself king. Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Robert Livingston (December 1800), worried in a similar fashion that republicanism in America was only skin deep and that there lurked a monarchie masquée (hidden monarchy) just below the surface. It should be remembered that there were some who thought George Washington should have been a monarch not a president in the new American nation. In Paine’s strict republican view if there were to be “king” it would have to be the rule of law not that of a single man. Furthermore, if a day of celebration were to be set aside then homage should be paid to the law (the “Charter”), a crown set upon it to remind those gathered that “the law is king”, and at the end of the ceremony the crown should be smashed and scattered among the people as a reminder that the notion of kingship is a dangerous thing in a free republic.
Common Sense (1776)
Thomas Paine reminded the American colonists that in a free republic “ the law is king” and that if a day were to be set aside to celebrate the republic’s achievements then it should not be focused on a single man but on the law itself:
But where, say some, is the King of America? I’ll tell you, friend, he reigns above, and doth not make havoc of mankind like the Royal Brute of Great Britain. Yet that we may not appear to be defective even in earthly honours, let a day be solemnly set apart for proclaiming the Charter; let it be brought forth placed on the Divine Law, the Word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other. But lest any ill use should afterwards arise, let the Crown at the conclusion of the ceremony be demolished, and scattered among the people whose right it is.
A government of our own is our natural right: and when a man seriously reflects on the precariousness of human affairs, he will become convinced, that it is infinitely wiser and safer, to form a constitution of our own in a cool deliberate manner, while we have it in our power, than to trust such an interesting event to time and chance. If we omit it now, some Massanello may hereafter arise [Note: Thomas Anello, otherwise Massanello, a fisherman of Naples, who after spiriting up his countrymen in the public market place, against the oppression of the Spaniards, to whom the place was then subject, prompted them to revolt, and in the space of a day became King], who, laying hold of popular disquietudes, may collect together the desperate and the discontented, and by assuming to themselves the powers of government, finally sweep away the liberties of the Continent like a deluge.
Trump proclaiming he will be a Dictator is not the winning message he thinks it is.
No, it isn't. But what does help him is if the media fixates on that instead of things that will convince independents and swing voters.
The Foundling Father’s actually documented what should occur if someone declares themselves a King.
I think if the American voting public actually cared about the founding fathers, Democracy and the risk of authoritarianism, they would have rejected him hard in 2016, much more resoundingly in 2020 rather than the nailbiter it was.
I wish that people were as enlightened or thoughtful as you posit but I don't think that's the case.
Making the case to the highly educated, focused on politics crowd isn't a great tactic. Trump is setting us up to fight a fight that he can win and goddamn, we're going to take the bait aren't we?
Remember 2016 when the press insisted Hillary was going to win and then was completely shocked when she didn't.
Biden has been a centrist wet wipe letting abortion and bathroom bans run rampant while supporting the genocide towards Palestinians. Don't be surprised if this brings down turnout because the left feels unrepresented.
Biden has been a centrist wet wipe letting abortion and bathroom bans run rampant
What exactly are you suggesting he could have done differently
Oh the irony of the article being about Cheeto’s dictator comment and the user you’re replying to being upset Biden isn’t behaving like a dictator.
Great point, well said.
If you're serious about stopping Trump, you should be voting in the Republican primaries in addition to voting in the general.
Democrats aren't having a real primary for president this year. Democrats should pick someone Republicans aren't excited about and vote for that candidate in the Republican primaries. But we have to pick one before primaries start so as to not split the vote.
If you don't have a very compelling reason to vote in the primary for your congressional district, senate seat, or governor's race, you should be voting in the Republican primary.
If we can get a candidate other than Trump at the top of the ticket, his cult will either stay home or write him in. Or even better, he'll run as a third party candidate and really split the vote.