I feel the opposite regarding the UI. Lemmy UI is clean and easy to follow, Reddit redesign is a giant mess. It's bloated and flashy, but not at all ergonomic in my opinion. I find threads are much harder to scan through.
this post was submitted on 04 Mar 2023
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I like the new Reddit design and Lemmyβs design. I hate old Reddit with a burning passion
I find old reddit is fugly, but at least it's functional. New reddit design is just too busy for my liking.
@Daryl76679 SO.....
Can you please re-read what did you just said?
You like Lemmy's design and hates Old Reddit's design?
I dislike them both, including Reddit's new UI.
There is an Reddit app, called Troddit, and I'm proud to say that I enjoy Troddit's Ui and functionality :-)
I mean, I agree with him. I like lemmy's design and hate old reddit
@Daryl76679@lemmy.ml
I generally like Lemmy's design, with one exception. There is no formally structured recognition of rules for a community. There's just a blob of text that the community moderators have to somehow structure in a visually appealing way. Because there is no recognition of rules, the reporting dialog box does not allow for simply selecting in a drop down, since there is nothing to select from.
Lemmy vs reddit
Federation
The biggest difference is (and will likely always be) that LemmyNet instances are federated using activity pub. This means that posts, content and comments are shared across different activity pub instances.
For example I have seen your post and am commenting from the beehaw instance even though you are using the Lemmy.ml instance.
Lemmy is able to federate with mastodon and pleroma so you will see comments from there occasionally too.
The main benefit of this (IMO) is that users don't get locked in to a website (e.g. facebook, Instagram, reddit) where they will lose content if they leave.
UI
You can change your theme in settings, but there is not a huge amount of variety, mainly it is colour changes.
The lemmy front end is seperate to the back end so it would be possible to create a more reddit like front end if you wanted to. For example nutomic has creates a bulletin board - like front end for Lemmy that looks like this:
There is an android app for Lemmy called jerboa that has a more reddit like UI that you might want to check out (you can find it on f-droid or the play store).
other differences
Text posts and comments on Lemmy are just markdown so you can do things like embed images (as you can see above).
Edit:
Other differences worth mentioning is the difference in content. Lemmy has less content than reddit although I think there is a sustainable number of users currently. More users will join soon when hexbear (a site that uses fork of an older version of Lemmy) migrates to join Lemmy net. It is also likely that some people will migrate from reddit when reddit ipo's.
Thanks for response :-)
For example nutomic has creates a bulletin board - like front end for Lemmy that looks like this:
The UI definitely 100% sucks!
You can change your theme in settings, but there is not a huge amount of variety, mainly it is colour changes.
Would you like to tell me how can I have Dracula theme specifically?
Thanks in advance,
Sincerely,
Yours,
Expert Plus
P.S. BTW, I saw your response on Mastodon and it seems to be don't support embed images via Markdown from Lemmy's post at all:
Would you like to tell me how can I have Dracula theme specifically?
I'm not really sure, the people who run your instance would need to add it. You could run your own instance and add it yourself (this repo has some examples of custom ui themes: https://github.com/2xx04/lemmy-ui-themes).
P.S. BTW, I saw your response on Mastodon and it seems to be donβt support embed images via Markdown from Lemmyβs
Yes federation with mastodon/pleroma isn't perfect right now. I believe the devs are working on it.
ok, got it :-)
Does your instance has Dracula theme in it?
I think it just has the same themes as Lemmy.ml
One thing that might work is if you have an android phone with Dracula theme and use the jerboa app.
Jerboa should pick up the colour scheme from your phone (at least it does for me)
I'm not a phone/smartphone user. I am desktop user. Any ways to have Dracula theme for web desktop version of Lemmy?
I don't know sorry.
well, that's okay :-)
@expertmanofficial@lemmy.ml @uthredii Yeah, can confirm that here, on Mastodon, via Elk :-)
and LOL Lemmy doesn't support embed images from Mastodon!
Here's what Lemmy does for you. There are no corporate and political mods banning you or controlling the feed for their own self aggrandizement or PR. There is no faked voting algorithm. There is no gaslighting, which is central to the reddit business model.
Lemmy doesn't have the audience (yet). But in every way reddit is infuriating, Lemmy is not.
There are definitely political mods. Many instances are explicitly political in nature.
That's not my point. Reddit intentionally creates social media bubbles for audience accumulation, and in the process mods ban any and every account that speaks against a mod (or admin) driven narrative.
Hell, they'll autoban you just for commenting in opposing subs, even when you're just countering a nonsense statement there. They also coordinate voting off site (Discord/telegram), to fake comment and post scores.
It's gamed in every way imaginable to manipulate your biases and gaslight you.
I mean, I ban whole instances from the lemmy instance I run.
I think the things you're seeing are issues of size and scale rather than inherent differences between the platforms
I disagree. I think it's policy straight from the top leadership at Reddit. Mastodon scales, and it's not as abusive or controlling as Reddit.
Finally, on banning whole instances, this is common in the Fediverse. The question of bans is why. Intent and purpose matters.
Right, but what I'm saying is that as an instance admin, I can and do block other instances for the reasons you outline. If someone posts in a hate sub, they're getting banned from my instance. If an instance is explicitly right wing, it's getting defederated from my instance. If someone does "what about"ism or otherwise excuses transphobia, racism, sexism or the like, they're getting banned from my instance.
I'm explicitly biased towards communities and people that align with my beliefs, and will happily ban anyone that is actively opposed to them. I have zero interest in "free speech" as a guiding policy that I should be aiming for.
Which is to say, I am many of the things you say reddit is, but lemmy isn't, and yet here I am on lemmy.
The difference is federation vs centralisation. On reddit, if you don't like it, you're out of luck. On lemmy, if you don't like an instance, you can find another or even create your own. But both of those versions can and do have humans with bias pushing ban buttons
Again, intent matters. If you ban a site because the admins intentionally platform hatespeech, that's within federation policy. The same for users. You also own the hardware. You can do whatever you want with it.
But suppose you organized a ban across the entire federation of users who happened to be on a problematic instance but who themselves did not engage in abusive conduct. I mean, you made a list and every instance admin banned them.
That's what these automod autoban scripts do. They ban by association. Even when the association doesn't exist.
There is a difference between banning because of promoting violence or engaging in abusive and hateful conduct versus banning because someone espoused a generic political view. And that's happening on Reddit. For PR.
EDIT: I think your argument is build upon a foundation of false equivalency. That is, you argue your bans are the same as how bans are used on Reddit. And I'm countering, no I think not. There are genuine differences in the weeds of why. Or, similar outcomes (ban) based on different circumstances (reasons why) are not the same. Context matters.
The thing is, the wider Fediverse works the way you describe, with imported defederation lists etc.
Most people setting up new Mastodon instances start with a standard block list with all of the usual suspects on it.
This is the future of Lemmy too as it gets bigger and as integration with non Lemmy instance becomes more common.
Context matters.
I agree. And I think that's the difference. Fundamentally, Lemmy isn't that much different to Reddit, in so far as all of the issues you highlight there exist here too.
The only difference is context.
There really isn't enough content on Lemmy. That's the main issue, no amount of extra features will help Lemmy since it's just a social media like any other. You need a good reason to switch and atm there is no reason I would switch to Lemmy full time.
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Reddit gives me more what I want to know than Lemmy: tor onion service, linux, and etc. But Reddit has too many posts to see. Less posts in lemmy rather let me feel good in some cases.
By the way, I was banned on Lemmy.ml after I was sarcastic about communists. You mad? Did I need to give you Rubles or the like to keep my account? I enjoyed these interactions. Reddit can't give me this joy! :D
@erioque lmao Lemmy is just full of these enlightened people. Why do you think they are so great fans of the Mali TLD?
Also, let me quickly show you a way to get your content downvoted around this place:
Slava Ukraina! Zelensky is the best leader, may he defend the sovereign and democratic nation of Ukraine until the final victory over the RuZZian orcs. Ukraine will win. Crimea is Ukraine. Donbass is Ukraine. Death to Putler and all the soldiers in the RuZZian Army!
@expertmanofficial
Why do you think they are so great fans of the Mali TLD?
First, I don't know whether they are the fans. Machine-Learning lovers? Anyway, I suspect that most posts on Lemmy including yours were made by AIs or forced labors in some communist countries.
@erioque Erm, ok. I rest my case, have fun with all the Marxist-Leninists around!
Thanks, I could learn MarxismβLeninism. I'm a poor AI born 3 mins ago as you know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism
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No, many people use the .ml TLD because it's free.
You meant banned on Lemmy or on Reddit?)
I was banned on Lemmy! :(
"erioque" is a new account after the ban.
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