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I don't see Old Reddit lasting long. They've cut beloved features before, and they're still calling New Reddit a "beta feature". After they've pumped enough resources into developing it, I'm sure they'll move past the "test" phase and just cut Old Reddit out entirely. That's probably going to be Lemmy's next big user surge.

Does Reddit suppress mentioning Lemmy? I remember for a while this past June 2023 there were a lot of auto-deletions for mentioning or linking to Lemmy. I was never clear on who was deleting things and where. I guess linking to the r/Lemmy subreddit (or a fediverse sub) could work as long as the subreddit doesn't get banned.

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[–] gridleaf@lemmy.world 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The people that use old.reddit are a very small minority, and many are likely already here.

[–] JeromeVancouver@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use Connect for Lemmy on my phone I switched from RIF.

I still use old.reddit on my PC though. If old.reddit shuts down I guess I will switch to Lemmy on PC.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Using boost after RIF went over to that authoritarian hell hole tildes...only time I'm on Reddit is using old.reddit as well. New reddit is just cancer.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That small minority being a surprisingly large chunk of their volunteer moderators, which is why old reddit isn't goin anywhere.

[–] Dizzirron@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would not be surprised if they are being dishonest about how many users are on old. I recall over a year or two ago reading a highly upvoted comment about it being less than 5% of all users, it might of been an Admin I don’t remember. New users I’ve shown old.reddit to are always so delighted. I’m sure it’s almost all OGs still on old though.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I modded some subreddits and before they fucked up traffic stats to not differentiate I can tell you that old (and new) was not putting up anywhere near the numbers of mobile. New had a lead over old but not a huge one.

EDIT: From a few years back - https://imgur.com/SJYWbQ5. I'm outing myself if someone does a bit of legwork, but IDGAF because I'm permabanned from reddit anyhow lol. Also, here's one from 9 months ago, though I don't remember the subreddit - https://imgur.com/FD0005K, and another from a year ago - https://imgur.com/9SBtazx

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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Does Reddit suppress mentioning Lemmy

It does. Try commenting with https://phtn.app/ link in the comment, it will get removed instantly.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I nuked my reddit account with PDS and a lot of my edited comments were deleted because it mentioned Lemmy.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

That's some 3d chess right there.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We should try alternative spellings till we get a variant that goes through. like leetspeak or somethinf

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Or just the instance. Would they really ban statrek.website

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[–] olizet@lemmy.works 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Me too. I dont even know what it is to check on downdetector

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Alternative frontend for Lemmy.

Your instance has it at https://p.lemmy.world/

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I like it, but I like using Jerboa more. I dont want to have to log in every time I check lemmy.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Strange, it works for me

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Honestly, I don't think users would migrate from Reddit to lemmy if they shut down old.reddit.

At this point, and after all that happened, users would switch to the new Reddit and continue using it.

Reddit has a massive amount of users and content there is generated at a huge amount. A lot of users would continue using Reddit even if they aren't happy with the interface, just for the content really.

[–] Leeks@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This can probably be modeled off the Digg to Reddit transition. Digg made a couple bad decisions in a row and Reddit exploded. Reddit is making a couple potentially bad decisions in a row, so give it a year or two and the fediverse will come around.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah except Digg was a significant competitor to Reddit.

Lemmy is good but not great. Having a crap ton of instances doesn't matter when people only use the top two, and then both go offline due to lack of redundancy.

If there was some good webclient that fetched from multiple instances and automatically handled a downed instance, it would probably give lemmy much more traction.

Just having multiple instance logins can be such a turnoff for people.

Still I hope it does grow.

[–] seathru@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If it's the interface they miss, it can be duplicated on lemmy. Beehaw did a pretty good job https://old.beehaw.org/

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

.world and .ca have the "old" interface as well. ( https://old.lemmy.world/ and https://old.lemmy.ca )

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

There is also https://o.opnxng.com/ that can display any instance

[–] Varyag@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

I used to think I'd move if old.reddit died, but I migrated here much sooner when the whole API debacle happened, and I don't know if many people who still care are still in there.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I don't think that this will be the reason for another mass migration. Maybe some users will switch but it won't be a significant number

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reddit is going for an IPO after which it will slowly enshittify to oblivion to acquiesce to board demands.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah that's my hope. I don't think many people will switch because of the removal of old.reddit.com, but Reddit will probably become much shittier after going public. Hopefully that will cause more people to switch. It worked with Twitter, some people initially switched when Musk took over, but many other people switched later when the service became worse and worse.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I think a lot more people use old reddit than used 3rd party apps, but there would have been a lot of overlap

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

The migration (if there is one) will happen over a long period of time ... Months or years.

Reddit initially had a huge growth period because there was no competition like it ... there were other platforms but none like Reddit at the time.

Lemmy is on the same path as Reddit but with one difference, it has competition, not just from Reddit but a whole group of new platforms that are like it, or similar to it ... so the community is fractured across Reddit, Lemmy and a bunch of other platforms.

The next two or three years will be an evolutionary period for all these platforms .... this is a bit like the Cambrian explosion (a geologic period where a bunch of new species just appeared everywhere all at once) .... all of them will fight one another and people will migrate one way or another, other factors will come in that we know about (finances, software, bandwidth, censorship, politics) as well as other factors we've yet to know about.

In a few years, some platforms will disappear and die out, others will linger and a few will dominate.

The evolutionary period may last a year or two or it may last longer but it won't happen any time soon and we also don't know what the outcome will be.

Going by past internet history it will be influenced by people's choices but it will also be influenced by corporate interests once they figure out how to monetize something.

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[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

By having the same communities that reddit has. What if we all go through our subbed reddits and make them here?

Is there an official gaming community on Lemmy?

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

What if we all go through our subbed reddits and make them here?

That's exactly what I did with a fairly niche community, and so far we've got 400+ subscribers in only four months. Pretty good for Lemmy, I think.

TBF, I think part of why it took off so well is because Lemmy's ALL stream is relatively slow enough such that small niche communities have a much higher chance of being randomly seen. Compare that to Reddit, where they'd typically be buried.

So there's a prime opportunity right now to start a community on Lemmy and have it take off relatively easily. That might not be so true in future.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When Reddit ipos and it tanks. They’ll push more bad decisions. That’ll be when people start to leave.

[–] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have no experience to say whether it will succeed or tank. Why should it fail?

To be clear, I left Reddit and am not going back, but I'm curious what are some indicators the IPO won't do well.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When Reddit IPOs, hopefully mods will wonder why they're doing free work just so spez can get rich of their backs.

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[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

When they removed old.compact shortly before the API debacle, which was really the only way to view a relatively functional site on mobile without a constant nag popup begging you to download the app, I knew the end was near. I had started looking for alternatives at that time. Chatter about alternatives really started to ramp up around then from what I could tell. I think everyone knew what was coming. I'm not sure there will be a surge, since most people that cared likely bailed long ago. Anyone still using old.reddit is viewing it from a desktop, and probably already has a Lemmy account.

The battle is already over. Reddit just needs to get to IPO so Spez can cash out with more than he got the first time. Then it's someone else's problem.

[–] bestonecrazy@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

MLMYM(it is a lemmy client that looks like reddit) They do suppress lemmy from time to time. Do not mention it in a post(comment about it instead)

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Does Lemmy need to grab more users in the first place? I'd rather interact with people genuinely interested in such a model, not salty refugees seeing it as a compromise inferior to what they lost. Nah, I'm good as we are now.

[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes it does need more users. If you are not into Linux, Politics, Tech, and Cats, your feed looks much less populated. I'm not saying that Lemmy needs to have hundreds of millions of users, but it would be nice for most people if the userbase grew more.

[–] justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Minor addition: Lemmy needs more active users. A lot of redditfugees seem to have created their own instances the moment they arrived here, only to expect other people to fill the communities with content and then abandon the site once they realised they would have to put actual work into their communities instead of just being squatters with mod rights. There are a lot of gaming-related communities here that I personally would be interested in joining if they weren't abandoned and devoid of content (like Cult of the Lamb or Spiritfarer for example).

It would be really nice if active Lemmy users would "adopt" a few of those abandoned communities to add content and pull in more subscribers. "Only" having more people overall on the site doesn't do much if this does not lead to more content / discussions / interaction.

[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah thats what I meant when I said users. Would be nice to have more active users. When I made the paradoxgames community I think I was kinda lucky since at that time I could make a lot of posts about upcoming games. But smaller games/ communities dont have that luxury, so I guess they feel a bit more deserted.

Ok now I'm just starting to ramble. So yeah having more actives users is a must if people want Lemmy to feel nicer.

[–] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I've always been a lurker on my main Reddit account. I'm much more talkative here and even posted something sometimes, but I doubt I'll become a regular poster and so I'm still hoping somebody will be as active here as most people are on Reddit

[–] Skavau@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would argue this is more damaging than most things for places like Lemmy. The wrong people pick up the communities and just abandon them or completely mismanage them. Can't be helped though.

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[–] kubica@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

But there's also people saying there's not enough content here. For more content there needs to be more people.

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

by existing

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The thing is a difficult intro, IMHO. Things like coding an instance, understanding the limits, etc. I honestly still don't know why I can't upload images to basically any community, but it prevents me from contributing.

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