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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have to think miniature guns for toddlers would open up whole new segments for gun manufacturers

[–] MBZzZzZzZz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

With different skins. There'll be a pokemon skin, a lego skin, a paw patrol skin ... The market is endless, and most importantly, untapped.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In 2021 4,752 children had gun related deaths. That's 13 a day.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Yes, but we refer to it as 14 a day, because 13 is bad luck.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but if those children had guns to protect themselves from the guns then it would have been 0.

Checkmate libruls

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many of those were gang members under 18?

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Depending on source, some were gang members over 18.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are 74 million children aged 0-18 in the USA. Going by your numbers, that means in 2021 that 99.99999% of children in the USA were not harmed by guns.

[–] Kairus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I know your number is a hyperbole, the real percent given the numbers in the thread is ~99.994%, or 14999/15000 unharmed, which, most supporters wouldn't bat an eye at anyway

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

this was a Sacha Baron Cohen bit

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Oh don't worry, they're working on it. Look up the JR-15.

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start them young. With extracurricular marksmanship classes as well, to get them to shoot accurately

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My high school used to have a shooting range. It was taught as part of P.E.

You make a joke of it... but people back then legitimately did it... I feel taking that away (the fundamental understanding of what a gun is) has done a lot of harm in today's society.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somehow other countries that never had gun ranges in their schools are not having the problems America has with guns.

I wonder why! 🤔

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, because learning about how guns work and firing one makes you instantly into a homicidal maniac! Better not play those videos games! I hear they make you violent.

Edit: Just to prove the point though... British Virgin Islands is worse than America. Must be because those laws are so effective... Not because of the neighbors. Not at all.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

British Virgin Islands is worse than America.

What are you talking about?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Under the "crown's" rule... and has a significantly higher homicide/gun violence/death rates. Almost like the law alone doesn't matter if the location is terrible. Proximity to central/south America is a problem.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've had six shooting deaths in this entire year.

America has had 35,000

Pretty sure the problem is proximity to America. Where do you think those guns in central/south America are coming from?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not looking at per capita rates are you? Way to drop the ball there.

their population is ~32,000, USA is about 11,000x bigger. 6*11000 = 66000, or about double the American rate!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... more people have been shot to death in America than the island's entire population! Using per capita on such wildly different population sizes is disingenuous - and This is still clearly due to proximity to America. Where do you think those guns were made? Where do you think the ammo was made?

Using per capita on such wildly different population sizes is disingenuous

Using raw numbers is many times worse than comparing per capita. It's not like we're talking about an n<10,000. They're statistically relevant.

and This is still clearly due to proximity to America.

Ah yes! Must be America's fault. That's why the numbers get worse the further away from America you go. Totally, we project through more than 8 countries to affect Venezuela, Brazil and Colombia. Man... Good thing EU has dozens of countries to go through in order to get to their problem countries like Nigeria, and SA.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/violent-crime-rates-by-country

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I see this problem everywhere. "We should fix X" "But what about?"

Can people please just talk about the topic instead of finding arguments against it? Too many people just want to argue and be 'right'.

[–] Sigma@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

whataboutism is a common tactic for conservatives. instead of using it to condemn an action they use it to excuse it. their double standards have become so apparent that it doesn't trigger any sort of cognitive dissonance when a Democrat is condemned for doing something a Republican already did. any sane person could make the argument "aren't they both bad then?" and it will go completely unheard.

[–] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

But then how will we enjoy having debates if we all shut up and actually solve problems?

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d also like them to, but the strategy isn’t meant to be helpful. Idk the rhetoric term but it diffuses the orig argument & attempts to distract. responding to it is pointless 🤷‍♂️

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It's literally a tactic used by children when they're being reprimanded. If you ever come across an "adult" that argues that way, tell them to sit back while the adults talk.

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

... er.... the only thing stopping an AmericaBad-with-a-gun is an AmericaGood-with-a-gun...?