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submitted 11 months ago by archchan@lemmy.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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[–] kpw@kbin.social 103 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Browsers are bloat.
-- average Arch user

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 71 points 11 months ago (5 children)

As an arch user, I'm confused... Doesn't everyone use curl as their browser?

[–] kpw@kbin.social 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recently switched to netcat, this lets me control the TCP stream more directly.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 months ago

also cuter

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Not related to Arch, but behold Richard Stallmann describing how he uses the internet: https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html (see section "How I use the internet" and the other section below that with the same title).

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

In fact, what I use is Maté (an English way of writing the Spanish word Mate).

As a Spanish speaker I'd just like to say

A: wtf is this even supposed to mean?
B: mate and maté are two entirely different words.
C: The mate desktop environment is named after hierba mate, no é.

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[–] heeplr@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unironically Lynx and Elinks.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 11 months ago

Let me introduce you to Browsh

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[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Imagine not enjoying the internet via curl

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

BTW, I use lynx.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 58 points 11 months ago (4 children)

OS ships with a browser.

Boo!

OS ships with a browser.

Yay!

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

It's not "shipping with a browser" that was ever the problem.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

your OS ships with a browser.

Boo!

my OS ships with a browser.

Yay!

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[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But edge is chrome.

As a former edge user. I now use Firefox.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Edge = Chrome + popup ads for Microsoft services

[–] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Edge actually has a few nice features that chrome and Firefox miss.

Like native horizontal tabs and tab groups (chrome might have groups)

I still refuse to use it over Firefox though.

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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You install something that at the core is the same as you but with a better interface.

It's funny how Microsoft just gave up on creating a new web browser and instead just rebranded someone else's homework.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

It's what they do best, but it usually involves buying a company.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 28 points 11 months ago (7 children)

why do windows users install chrome?

i don't get it, edge comes preinstalled on windows and it's chromium-based.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

If you're gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google? They're both evil and Edge actually performs significantly better than Chrome somehow (they're basically the same I don't get it).

Install freaking Firefox.

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[–] nicoweio@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Force of habit? Plus, if I used Windows, I wouldn't use Edge out of spite. Fuck their shady ways of pushing users to use it.

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[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'm amaze by how many people still use chrome based browser. They really want to get their face eat by a leopard. Well we told you people, there's no reason left not to use firefox.

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Not anymore. Just open PowerShell

winget install whateveryouwant

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned -Scope CurrentUser # Optional: Needed to run a remote script the first time

irm get.scoop.sh | iex

Microsoft doesn't need to even be involved

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

At least in win11.

Not sure about win10, which didn't have it installed by default orginally, but could be now? None of my win 10 machines are recent enough fresh installs to confirm, and have winget (and choco) installed because I installed it so I can install stuff easily.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago

On Windows 10 it was automatically installed as an update using - wait for it - the Microsoft Store.

Yes, the system-wide package manager was distributed as a package in the desktop store. 🤌

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[–] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

not even that

winget install Mozilla.Firefox

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fuck Winget. It's a GUI-only person's idea of what a CLI package manager should be. The only positive value I can think of is that it's better than not having one at all.

I manage about 500 Windows machines in a university. When teachers started complaining that they are unfamiliar with the paid version of an IDE, and we'd have to install the free community edition, I was delighted to learn that it was available through Winget. But privilege escalation on Windows is a fucking joke, so trying to install it remotely through Ansible/WinRM just popped the UAC anyway. I had to VNC into every single machine to click the fucking button. As an additional middle finger, winget.exe was not even in PATH when I tried WinRMing as the local admin.

Winget is the absolute nadir of package managers, and it should be doused in acid, burned, chucked in the dumpster where it belongs, and forgotten. Choco and Scoop all the way.

[–] HW07@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Choco > winget imo

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

winget install Google.Chrome

Windows has a package manager like a big boy OS these days

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

WinGet is an AppGet rip-off without even a mention of the original creator. I'm still salty about that.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Microsoft offers to buy out AppGet and had its developer join them, but then ghost him once they realized the dev is also Sonarr dev.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago (8 children)

unpopular opinion preinstalling any browser is wrong

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 51 points 11 months ago

Found the Arch user.

[–] quantenzitrone@feddit.de 23 points 11 months ago

i think it is very beneficial for the average user to have one of each common software category preinstalled

as long as you can uninstall everything

[–] Frozzie@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think you mistyped "popular"

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That’s the lemmy echo chamber. Poll a hundred people on how to get a program onto a computer without a browser and I’d be surprised if five people answered something other than a disk or that it’s impossible

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This meme makes no sense. Why would Windows want that?

Surprisingly I dont get weird popups when installing Firefox

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 10 points 11 months ago

It doesn't have to make sense as long as it bashes Windows.

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