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'PC Gamer' Celebrated 30 Years of Video Game History Without Naming a Single Woman (www.themarysue.com)
submitted 11 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/games@sh.itjust.works
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Gaming is having a Nobel Prize in STEM moment here.

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[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 11 months ago (5 children)

They are totally right, it's a shame that PC Gamer did not name a single woman.

One nitpick though: Two of the women named in the article, Rieko Kodama and Amy Hennig, created games for PC. Both were employed by console makers. Jen Zee being acknowledged is certainly deserved, but a there are many, many trailblazing women in PC gaming which should be highlighted: Roberta Williams (co-founder of Sierra Online), Brenda Romero (Wizardry series), Jade Raymond (Assassin's Creed producer) or Danielle Bunten Berry (M.U.L.E.), just to name a few.

Particularly the omission of Roberta Williams who has not only co-founded one of early gaming's most successful game dev studios and publishers, but also designed the long-running King's Quest series which transformed and defined the adventure game genre, is inexcusable. It does not get more influential in gaming than that.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Roberta Williams deserves so much respect. She sculpted so many peoples childhoods. Phantasmagoria was so ahead of it's time.

[–] JowlesMcGee@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I thought Amy Hennig worked on Legacy of Kain, which did come out on PC.

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. Though the article points towards Uncharted and her work on Legacy of Kain is not as well-known IMO.

[–] ashtefere@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It should be. She's a fucking genius and those games are amazing, gameplay wise and narratively.

I wish someone would give her a bunch of money to do a remake of the whole series.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

Was going to say, the PC Gamer bit is bad enough, but how do you write a rebuttal without mentioning two of the arguably most accomplished influential women in gaming, namely Roberta Williams and Jane Jensen?

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

I am fairly confident that Roberta Williams was mentioned in Stephen Levy’s seminal work Hackers. It’s been 5+ years since I read the 25th anniversary edition so I don’t want to say it was good or bad; it was enough coverage that I remember it and think it’s really weird that PC Gamer wouldn’t include her work.

[–] timtoon@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

...and way back when, if you got stuck on say King's Quest, you could call Sierra Online and she would give you hints!

[–] Kyyrypyy@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago

Considering that the term "computer engineering" was created by a woman, programming is based on maths solved by a woman, and the push for graphics in adventure games was started by a woman, I don't think PC Gamers list is worth even checking, as I know that many notable leaps in gaming I don't know about have since been pushed by women.