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Is this a rhetorical question? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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[โ€“] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Back in 2010 my friend group and I tried. Google kept changing their chat programs and we'd keep having to migrate or change what we did. Eventually we went to discord and it was at least stable.

We tried, Google. We tried. I won't go back.

[โ€“] trk@aussie.zone 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, because Google will just go and randomly cancel.

All my family and friends used to use Hangouts and it was perfect. I'd been with it since Google Talk but it was Hangouts SMS and functional video chat integration that won everyone over. Then SMS was removed, and later there was talk of it changing to Chats... and the stench of Allo and Duo was still in the air so we abandoned ship rather than bothering.

Now we're on a mix of WhatsApp and Messenger depending on the social group. Not really my preference but once bitten, twice shy so Google products get a hard pass.

Also, Chats is ugly. A horizontal bar in a sea of whitespace is a terrible separator for a conversation. And chat heads don't work in group messages like they did in Hangouts so it sucks for knowing if people in a group chat are up to speed.

[โ€“] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago

That stretch of time when hangouts did SMS was beautiful.

[โ€“] Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Iโ€™d trust Plankton with the krabby patty secret formula more than Iโ€™d trust Google with another chat app

[โ€“] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'd trust 18th-20th century French populous that they have an appropriate form of government more than I'd trust Google it has a chat app it'll commit to.

[โ€“] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Iโ€™d rather create two RSS feeds over which we would communicate

[โ€“] p5f20w18k@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Iโ€™d rather use a usenet board

[โ€“] unmagical@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Maybe if they reintroduced hangouts and let me:

  • make phone calls
  • make phone phone calls with Google voice
  • make voice chats
  • send sms messages
  • send sms messages with Google voice
  • send chat messages
  • make video calls
  • permit all those options (except native sms) from Gmail, the desktop app, and the dedicated webpage
  • collate my conversation with people among all the communications methods listed

I'd be tempted to use them again. It amazes me that they made an app that encompassed basically every modern form of individual communication laid out in a clear understandable manner and they just thought it would be better if every feature they offered were it's own app. Now I have to remember which medium I used to talk with somebody and use an app with fewer features.

I miss hangouts.

[โ€“] HubertManne@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Hangouts was peak Google messaging. It was iMessage before iMessage. I don't know if it necessarily came first, but all my friends who have iPhones and use iMessage now used to use Hangouts on Android. I think Google has a huge opportunity to be the popular brand and lost it.

[โ€“] eluvatar@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Man those were the days. I still use Voice and have years of messages in there, I dread the day they cancel it and I need to find something else.

[โ€“] Synthead@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They have released and killed about a dozen chat services. What makes this one different?

[โ€“] spongebue@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Synthead@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

There actually was a Google Chat before. It used XMPP. They're even recycling names, cause they're starting to run out of names from all the past services they killed.

[โ€“] LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

If it becomes an open-source, decentralized service with bridges and more users than Matrix, I'd consider it.

[โ€“] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If somebody broke into my house, stuck a gun to my head and told me to use it or they would blast me, I would probably use it then.

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago
[โ€“] Paradox@lemdro.id 4 points 10 months ago

The gun would be a faster way to go

[โ€“] tutus@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 10 months ago
[โ€“] MakeItCount@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would I use a chat app tailored to businesses to chat with my friends ?

Why not using Slack while we're at it ?

[โ€“] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Google chat is just Google hangouts and was one of the first messengers out there I believe. My family still uses it to have chats between Android and iPhone users.

[โ€“] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 10 months ago

If google had just built on top of Hangouts starting in like 2013, they'd have a great product. It was built into gmail. That's a huge install base. It was just there and they just... didn't do it. Too many middle managers and asshole resume padding engineers, not enough adult supervision.

[โ€“] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

I currently use it with friends, and have been using it since it was called Google Talk.

[โ€“] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago

I use it with a group of friends and we love it.

[โ€“] kzhe@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago

I use it with my wife and friends more than what'sapp or messenger

[โ€“] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

I would rather use netcat command to send massages than Google Product.

[โ€“] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

There is nothing that would get me to use that as there are dozens of better and more private solutions

[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not being snarky, if they created an open source federated protocol with a foundation to hold the patents to guarantee their freedom. I would definitely move on to a Google designed, Google engineered, Google ran, end-to-end encrypted third-party verified federated platform. They can actually be good engineers when they want to be.

Any platform where Google is in sole control, and where they could get bored and turn the service off, I will never use.

Somebody will get promoted for making a new platform, somebody will get promoted for having change at global scale, and then nobody will touch it ever again to innovate or fix anything ever. Because it won't get them there next level promotion, iterating is not global scale change. As an organization they'll abandon it, when the user numbers get low enough they'll kill it. 2 to 5 years. So the platform absolutely must be decentralized and federated