So, they went to the trouble of keeping a different set of functionalities just for Europe instead of unshittifying Windows for everyone. Wow.
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So it must be worth a lot of money to force al of that stuff on users right?
Nobody would be using their ad-bloated software otherwise
Is it that bad now? I don’t use windows products in my private life, only at work. And I don’t find things that bad over there, but maybe that’s because it’s windows for business
Your business sysadmins will have gone through the trouble of getting rid of any bullshit. My companies windows installs are more chill than default win11 versions.
Yeah, just like a home user can if they bothered looking into the settings.
~Sincerely a sysadmin
You can use Linux for free which has never been shittified.
How quickly they forget. Canonical added Amazon ads to Ubuntu 10 years ago. They walked it back after huge backlash, but don’t believe that any corporate-backed Linux is immune to “shittifying”.
Linux distributions and/or components have been, and will be, shittified repeatedly. Not as badly as commercial operating systems, but pretty bad anyway.
$$$ > $$
Hmm... but the registry hooks for those uninstalls must be in there even if the option isn't surfaced in the UI right?
Maintaining different UI options is one thing, maintaining completely different OS versions is another... and it seems like it would be prohibitively complex and expensive to do that.
Probably all you'd need is for someone with the EU version to export a backup of the relevant parts of their registry, and distribute that so anyone who wants to can have the same uninstall options. The trick would be keeping it that way through Windows updates.
Well, they are no longer allowed to milk victims in the EU thanks to good laws. That does not mean they cannot exploit those who are not protected.
That sweet sweet data collection $$
Why yes, Microsoft, I do live in Europe, why do you ask?
"system components" is a weird way of spelling forced bloatware.
Well... dependencies can still exist, which would justify the "system" marking. For example, different programs' WebViews depend on Edge nowadays, though maybe it is possible to isolate having that rendering engine without having the full browser program.
Microsoft already has a webview software that deals with that, which afaik already also comes with Windows, and is independent of Edge.
Edge, the browser proper, is in no way a dependency of anything else.
This came about from the Netscape v MSFT browser wars; where MSFT tried to argue that because IE was bolted directly into the OS, it therefore had to come preinstalled without asking & could not be uninstalled. The court ordered them to unbolt it & bundle it as a separate install - just like other browsers.
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help" is a very good thing when the government gives a shit about the people it governs.
Slow down
It's the same Union that wants to ban cryptography in instant messaging apps. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes...well
Uninstalling Windows entirely has improved my sanity immensely.
I would too if anti cheat worked on Linux
I'm glad to see it improving lately, together with proton, but it's not ideal yet, for sure.
For people who want to follow the progress of anticheat on Linux: https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Same
If the EU could force them to allow us to fully disable tracking as well, that would be great.
"Let" more like forced by the eu
We’ll be updating Windows 10, version 22H2 and Windows 11, version 23H2 PCs in the EEA to be compliant by March 6th, 2024.
Not just Win11, but Win10 as well. Nice.
Well, they kind of have to I would guess.
It just so happens I will be reinstalling my windows partition and "moving to Europe" in March of next year too!
Windows uses the region chosen by the customer during device setup to identify if the PC is in the EEA. Once chosen in device setup, the region used for DMA compliance can only be changed by resetting the PC.
Uuh. I hope I have that set to my actual location despite using en-US as display language.
Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it should be correct.
I hate when apps use your format settings instead of display language to decide the language they display. Having to reset the Windows installation would be a much bigger hassle though.
I've often fixed these settings post installation. I guess doing it right the first time is important now.
Wish they would also do that with Win10.
That step they don't have to go makes me think with Windows 12, the whole process will likely start from 0. They will try to implement everything again, waiting for courts or politics to take some decisions after years.
Bing is a sytem component now?
Cortana and Microsoft Bing are going right out the window, Microsoft Edge will have to stay as a necessary evil to deal with moronically designed websites. Hear, hear!