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Why don't we just ban conservatives instead?
It's not against any law to discriminate based on political affiliation. Refusing to do business with conservatives is legal and moral. Continuing to treat fascists and bigots as normal members of our community only normalizes fascism and bigotry.
We can just ban lab-grown thought. Humans should not get their thoughts from think tanks!
The article has the who, what, when, where, but not the ever important why.
Florida House Republican Ryler Sirois introduced...
Ah. There it is. I guess I'm to assume lab grown meat is somehow "woke" (or something of equal or greater bullshit)?
The "why" is certainly that someone in the state beef industry gave him a pile of money.
Everything they don't like is woke.
It's this political cycle's go-to boogyman word.
I would love someone to use it in front of me as a pejorative just so I can ask what it means and watch them squirm.
I've done that. Twice.
Both times they just dodged a direct answer and just started naming off stuff they didn't like.
I've had this happen, went with "woke? you mean understanding that there is injustice in the world, and we should probably fix that, whats wrong with that?"
Didn't say anything after that. Don't mess with my happy when i'm on my honeymoon ffs!
Actually it looks to be a regulatory grab.
The legislation mandates that any entity looking to sell lab-grown meat in the state must obtain future authorization from the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, allowing the department to adopt rules governing the use of lab-grown meat in the state.
Likely they want to pose a different tax on lab meat than other meat. Doing so usually is to provide a method to pander to farmer votes later on down the road. It's like the reason things like corn subsidies seem to just never go away.
So this just looks like the person is creating a new card for the deck of cards to be played during elections. But I guess "woke" can be in there too if that plays well to his base.
The meat is grown in a lab. Vaccines are from labs. Therefore lab grown meat is bad.
Plus, do you know who wins hangs around labs? SCIENTISTS!!!
Now, if this was church grown meat...
The article has the who, what, when, where, but not the ever important why.
Florida House Republican Ryler Sirois introduced…
Ah. Assuming lab grown meat is somehow “woke”?
Does FL have a large cattle market that I am unaware of? That's the only reason I can think to ban lab-grown meat. It's a win for almost every other conceivable stakeholder.
Actually yes. Florida has a very large cattle market, one of the largest in the US (I don't believe it is the largest, but it's certainly one of the bigger ones).
Edit: just looked up the most recent stats and the Florida cattle market is smaller than I thought, but still sizeable. It's currently sitting at about the 14th largest in the US and makes up about 2% of the entire US market.
Must be a lot of freedom down there that they're banning so many things.
This is an example of why I call myself conservative, but would never vote Republican.
Today’s republicans aren’t conservatives.
If you don't mind me asking, what positions do you hold as a conservative that are different from modern Republicans?
Those are positions I consider conservative, and hold myself, that aren’t reflected in current Republican policy.
Those are positions I consider conservative, and hold myself, that aren’t reflected in current Republican policy.
None of those are specific to conservatism, and I would say some of the opposites of those position, like opposition to gay marriage and abortion, has historically always been part of conservatism.
More interestingly would be to learn what specific conservative policies you subscribe to. Policies which you don't think exists in other ideologies.
like opposition to gay marriage and abortion, has historically always been part of conservatism
Speaking for the poster, probably incorrectly, but while I consider myself liberal, and have long been a support of gay rights and marriage, I always laughed when I was defending it (like early 2000) because I was always making the conservative argument that the government shouldn't be regulating which two consenting adults can join a contract with each other.
Classically speaking, it's a politically conservative position. It's just that republicans, who pretend to be conservatives, also tend to be religious and let those beliefs often influence what they claim is the conservative position.
But the state staying out of who gets married is, no doubt, an actual politically conservative position.
All of these are classically liberal positions, and most of them are compatible with progressivism, and with socialism. Admittedly, since liberalism is the foundation of the USA, and the global norm today, classical liberalism is technically a conservative perspective, now, but it really isn't what most people have meant by "conservative" for the last hundred years or so.
Idk, restricting access to anything is "conservative" in practice and at the heart. Conserving is the main action a 'conservative' must practice. Don't eat too much food. Don't drink too much alcohol (if any). Don't have too much sex. i.e. conserve your wants and needs so as to... well, at this point they impart religious contexts to justify why it will be worth it to deny yourself in the end.
If I were a conservative though, the part that would piss me off is when I find out my so-called "leaders" are engaging in the same loose activities I've been lead to feel guilty for having thought of and brother, that's A LOT of conservatives. In just politics it's almost always republicans, and in the church, it's almost always the pastors/leadership. You conservatives have a lot of reconciliation to do if you ever expect to win an election fairly.
Conserving doesn't mean reducing, it means protecting what already exists. Restricting access to birth control, for example, I would not call politically conservative.
Republicans have, at different points in time, been fairly forward leaning in their own way. Have a google of progressive policies implemented by republicans.
Social conservatism is more akin to what you are describing rather than the conservative political movement (and has a large section of the republicans in its sway at the moment). The thing they are trying to protect is their own personal moral view of the world and in so doing they are willing to not conserve the current political system to achieve this goal.
So much for the free market.
These degenerate communists have gone too far.
anybody read it? On what grounds is FLA stifling innovation and entrepreneurship?
EDIT: I read it, doesn't say why.
As a pescatarian, I would 100% be fine with eating non-fish meat if it was lab grown and not farmed.
This shit should be a revolution, not banned. Save animals and have cruelty free meat. Win-win
Sorry to burst your bubble but it's decades away if it's even possible. The current process involves putting animal cells in a bioreactor(vat) with nutrients and having them propagate. It's hitting hard limits on scaling though because the larger the vat the harder it is to get waste out and nutrients in without some sort of vascular system. Even if it did scale it's not producing steaks or even meat chunks, it's just making meat cell slurry that's mixed with a bunch of other stuff to make something like beyond burger but with some actual "cow" cells for probably 3 times the price.
It took evolution billions of years to efficiently make complex multicellular structures, humans are a long way off.
hmmm meat shortage.... extra conservatives... meat shortage... extra conservatives...
i think i want my burger red on the inside
That seems like a bit of government overreach. I thought they didn't like that.
I guess cruelty really is the point.
So they’re known as the pro-soy Republican now, right?
Man, Florida used to be your cool careless cousin. Now we're your crazy, racist, alcoholic, Faux news watching uncle. SMH
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