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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The irony is that these puzzles, while designed to stop bot spam/fake registrations, are actually used to train AI/computer vision to be better... thus, creating the need for even more infuriating puzzles to be "solved" by humans.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago

They're not designed to stop spam, they're designed to stop legitimate customer service requests, like refunds for billing mistakes. Sony uses them.

[–] damirK@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And bots are already better than us at these tests. Might be better to assume if someone solves too quickly they are a bot. Sorry Mensa peeps

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2384228-bots-are-better-at-beating-are-you-a-robot-tests-than-humans-are/

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At least yours is a low number. I had to do some with numbers like "37". I had to solve 64 of these to talk to PlayStation billing support. It wasn't mildly infuriating, it was enraging. They made me do 16 of them, and then just took me back to the same page as if I hadn't solved any at all. Then I had to do 16 of them again to be told that support was offline. Then the next day I did 16 more to be told support was offline, so I tried it in chrome instead of Firefox and had to do 16 more to be given a phone number to call, which I had to hold on for 67 minutes before I could talk to someone about a refund for a mistake on my billing. That type of dark pattern "fuck you" practice should be illegal. Fuck Sony.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The part of your story where you had to eventually switch to Chrome got me, because that's me every fucking time. These monsterous companies aren't just using captcha wrong (or right if they're evil), they're also all-in on chromium supremacy because why support more than one standard? And here I am, forty captcha deep wondering if I'm about to pop a god damned hidden achievement for persistence in an impossible task.

[–] 0xC4aE1e5@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

For me, when a site forces Chrome, I just use ungoogled chromium, or sometimes vanilla Chromium

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

oh i had to do 10 of them there were definitely some 24s in there 😭

[–] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was trying to book a trip through a travel website, after the 3rd tedious captcha I ended up using another site. I get it, the bot vs captcha war is getting crazy but if your website is unusable then i'm not going to use it.

[–] DrMango@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

90% of captchas are just being used to train AI anyways.

Source: I don't need a source I have this tinfoil hat

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Tinfoil hat is a reputable source.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yup. This has been their use since the 'type these two words' capchas which were used to train for OCR.

[–] nuke@yah.lol 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't think the average person understands how advanced bots have become at bypassing captchas now. Users will see this and be upset, and understandably so, but I'm telling you there is a big problem right now and devs are having trouble keeping up.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That’s nice, they should think about average people with learning disabilities and how hard it is for them to keep up.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The acceleration I'm seeing now makes me think we've reached a terminal point. There will be no way to tell humans from bots quickly, cheaply and anonymously soon, and services will just have to adapt or die.

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Google's approach of just monitoring your behaviour in the browser is still the most humane and it pisses me off that you literally have to serve all your data to them so they can even decide to serve you with their ads.

[–] evlogii@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

I personally never met this CAPTCHA, but my friend did during our phone call. It was utterly hilarious to hear him slowly going mad to the point of screaming at the computer. I was laughing my ass off. This is too dystopian to be true.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At that point I'd just do the audio version

[–] 0xC4aE1e5@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

I have this problem too. I have Proton VPN on and try to solve a reCAPTCHA. And it makes me do the "click until there's none left" thing, which is a pain in the ass. I do it. And then just says Please try again. So I do the audio one and apparently I'm sending automated requests. Thanks google.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

Seriously, what asshole came up with this? Some of us have trouble processing numbers.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and you have to answer like 10 of them blobcat, angryhammer

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Getting locked out of my accounts by recognition and math ftw

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[–] 0xC4aE1e5@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

If memory serves the people behind this CAPTCHA are Palo Alto Networks.

Apparently they are the leader in cyber security and use AI everywhere.

So no wonder why these CAPTCHAs are so difficult, they're probably training AIs.

[–] redbr64@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird - I see a lot of comments about how this is some evolution in the war of bots vs CAPTCHA, but I have come across this once, and it was many years ago. I just assumed it was a weird small captcha company that was doing their own thing

[–] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What type of dice has a mix of pips and numerals?

[–] Vyllenor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago

AI generated type

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I assume it's generated or photoshopped. A proper D6 has opposing sides that sum to 7. Thus you should never be able to see 3 and 4 or 1 and 6 at the same time.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

That's definitely a new one in the AI v. Captcha arms race, and it's only going to get worse from here. Build a better sword, need a better shield.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where? What's this for? I might just become a robot instead

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

the one in the post was specifically from the battle.net account android app but i've seen them other places too :(

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recently got one of these signing in to github.

[–] crockswithsocks@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's the only way to be sure.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait... am I misunderstanding this or are they asking you to just sit there and roll dice till you get all ones on 5 D6's?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so there's the number on the left and then on the right you have to use the arrows to scroll through until you find the picture with the dice that add up to the number on the left so you basically have to do maths like 10 times in a row there's not a set number of dice, i think - i can't remember but i think that one was like a 1, a 1, a 2, and a 1 or something.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

You can just watch the YouTube tutorial on how to do these