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Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/5574803

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[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am really tired of this piece of shit getting himself involve in things that he have no remote understanding of.

[–] famousringo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

He understands that papa Putin will release the kompromat if he doesn’t say this.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

I'm willing to bet even the people he hires at SpaceX feels the same about any input he offers

[–] Edmund_Across_The_Room@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he's smart in one thing so he must be smart in all things?

[–] theolodis@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Name one thing he's actually smart in.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Syndic@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. For a while he was doing really well at selling himself as visionary investing in cool technologies when no one else was willing to. Then he started to comment on shit he really has no idea about and it all went down hill fast. Certainly after the whole insulting a cave rescuer as a paedophile.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Spending daddy's money

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Exploitation

Learned it from daddy

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

His family made their fortune because of Apartheid. It makes sense that he'd sympathize with the occupiers.

[–] Vivarevo@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 year ago

He is pretty fascist, so its no wonder he sides with them.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You can take the Afrikaner out of South Africa, but you can't take the apartheid out of the Afrikaner.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago

Ukraine should put him on their list of Russian propagandists

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dumbass.

Edit: I mean that billionaire thundercunt. Not you OP. I bet you are fabulous.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I am so sick of this cunt.

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck ignorant lazy billionaires. The mega wealthy are ALL the problems wrong with this world.

[–] SitD@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

yep especially the arrogance. sure he can share his wisdom, but maybe first go for an internship in the ukrainian army, little elon 😉 then I'll take it seriously

[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think he wants Ukraine to fold so he can peddle his shitty inventions to Russia without pesky sanctions getting in the way, whilst styling himself as a great diplomat.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That he disabled Starlink to thwart a Ukrainian offensive already showed as much.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You're giving him way too much credit calling them "his inventions". He didn't invent shit

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago

What a joke of a man

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Lets see how many downvotes directly quoting the source gets me.

urging the world to 'sympathize with the Russian occupiers'

And we should have some sympathy for the Russian boys as well as the Ukrainian boys, because Russian boys, because boys didn’t ask to be on their frontline. They have to be. So there’s a lot of sons not coming back to their parents, and I think most of them don’t hate the other side. It’s sort of like as this saying comes from World War I, it’s like young boys who don’t know each other killing each other on behalf of old men that do know each other. The hell’s the point of that.

Elon Musk's 'advice' to 'stop resisting Russia'

Well, I think that what is likely to happen, which is really pretty much the way it is, is that something very close to the current lines will be how a ceasefire or truce happens. But you just have a situation right now where whoever goes on the offensive will suffer casualties at several times the rate of whoever’s on the defense because you’ve got defense in depth, you’ve got minefields, trenches, anti-tank defenses. Nobody has air superiority because the anti-aircraft missiles are really far better than the aircraft. They’re far more of them. And so neither side has air superiority. Tanks are basically death traps, just slow moving, and they’re not immune to anti-tank weapons. So you really just have long range artillery and infantry ranges. It’s World War I all over again with drones, thrown old drones, some drones there.

He “advised” Volodymyr Zelenskyy to abandon the counteroffensive and agree to peace talks with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin

Look, I think I would just recommend do not send the flower of Ukrainian youth to die in trenches, whether he talks to Putin or not, just don’t do that. Whoever goes on the offensive will lose massive numbers of people and history will not look kindly upon them.

Source

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of this is just general "war is bad for everyone" and the old "the ones fighting the war aren't the one who want the war". It's true but it's also really nothing new or especially smart.

Look, I think I would just recommend do not send the flower of Ukrainian youth to die in trenches, whether he talks to Putin or not, just don’t do that

This part though is what I find problematic. This way of framing the current situation suggests a few things:

  1. Ukraine is the one deciding for this war to happen
  2. All that would be needed to stop this war would be talking with putin about a truce
  3. Putin attacking Ukraine is sort of a "higher power" like a natural catastrophe that just has to be accepted

It also completely ignores a few things:

  1. The lines are only this stable because Ukrainians risk and lose their lives every day to defend them. Stopping this would mean a truce would be no longer negotiable. Because why would Putin suddenly stop the efforts to move the lines once resistance has stopped?
  2. Putin is the one responsible for Ukrainians going into this war and dying at the frontlines, just as he is responsible for the russian soldiers that are dying there

Also: Telling a nation to just roll over and be invaded is such an american thing to suggest.

Edit: This also misses the whole thing where other countries might accept you as a refugee if you desert the russian army, if you really didn't want to fight in this war.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, yeah. The article accurately represents the source, based on the quotes you shared. There's a lot more appealing to people's emotions in the source, but he's still saying the same thing.

[–] min0nim@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. It’s all sympathy for the devil platitudes.

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[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

"Stop resisting and just sympathize" is also how Elon Musk got ten kids.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago

No, fucker.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the rat can visit the front line for a couple of months and see what Russia has done before chiming in.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A day will suffice

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

Can we start a movement to incentivize one politician or someone with a lot of representation behind them to simple tell the bird brain to "sit down, shut up and stay still"?

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is, was this POS thought all along and is another proof for his total lack of empathy and inability to think ahead.

The world should sympathise with the idea of sending Muskrat with an one way ticket to Mars.

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Do humanity a double service and fly to Mars.

And stay there.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 6 points 1 year ago

Man typical asshole moment

[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These links does not work. Where is the source?

[–] albert180@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Cjwii@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does this quote seem... Inaccurate? I've seen Muskrat speak a few times and he's seemed to have a basic understanding of the English language? Never heard him discuss the flower of youth?

Yes. I advise him (Zelensky - ed.) not to send the flower of Ukrainian youth to die in the trenches... I think he should meet Putin in person. The reason why I proposed some kind of truce or peace a year ago was that I predicted almost exactly what would happen, namely: many people would die due to the lack of tangible changes on the front line and the loss of the flower of Ukrainian and Russian youth," he said

[–] albert180@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

It seems to be a website which translates news from Non-English-News Outlets in English. The original article seems to be this

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I listened to Lex Friedman's podcast with Elon Musk as guest, an he used that expression several times. It seems like it's more like a slavic expression. So I don't know, perhaps he got it straight from Putin or perhaps he's just deliberately using an expression that resonates more with Russians and Ukrainians.

[–] Cjwii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you that's so weird..

[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just see it as cross-posted from… and the link to that Lemmy instances in the description. Thanks for the link.

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's from a +2 hour podcast he did with Lex Fridman. Transcript in the description. You only need to listen the first 20 minutes though. Good luck trying to find him saying the things he's accused of here.

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[–] x0chi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Motha F..... rr

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ukrainian security and world order depends on Elon Musk shutting the fuck up. If he doesn't, his money won't stop motivated governments from shutting him down.

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