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This Fallout New Vegas Mod introduces an infinite number of dynamically generated quests (www.dsogaming.com)
submitted 11 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works
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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I mean there's probably people out there, but who'd want to do more meaningless, non-interesting quests? The fact that there's infinite quests that can be generated does not mean all of those will be good quests, there's infinite ways to arrange letters but only a few specific ones worth reading.

I don't want to shit on the mod maker or anything, and I also haven't tried the mod out, but I simply can't imagine that with our current technology it's possible to generate any larger amount of fun side-quests. You'd probably do one or two of every "type" the mod maker came up with, and then you're done. That might be the intention, but in that case, this is definitely not "news-worthy".

But also maybe I'm just too negative...

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dynamically generated quests can be fun if it's diverse enough so you don't notice repeating pattern on the quests. Once you start noticing the repeating pattern it stopped being fun.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 2 points 11 months ago

Kill supermutants with comically small arms but enormous heads (they shoot with guns in their mouths)

Bring: comically small arm 8 and comically large head 4 to [npc]

[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I have never seen dynamically generated quests that you don't recognise the pattern after 1-1.5 hours at most

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reading the description it sounds more like it's just basic stuff like kill, gather, or deliver X things at Y location. Maybe it will get better in the future or people will make add-ons for it or something.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So it’s basically Starfield?

[–] Gekkonen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

This works in Mount & Blade, I suppose, at least for the first x hundred hours. The difference is that Mount & Blade makes grinding actually fun and you don't notice to be grinding for a good while.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Another settlement needs your help!

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 0 points 11 months ago

💀

[–] overkill0485@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 months ago

So, Bethesdafied?

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kill [enemy] at [coordinates] [and] bring [NPC] [enemy loot] x [random number 1-200]

lol

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is all I can ever think of when games brag about so much procedural generation.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean what else would you do with it? Everything else would be waaay to expansive and likely get problems with CPU power of players at some point.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

It's a fair question.

A while back one of the teams on Star Citizen was talking about an interesting idea they had for quest design where you would create distinct "chunks" of quests that the game would then be able to assemble on the fly. So, for example, it might start with "go to X, fetch Y", then add "Dropoff point gets changed during the mission" and "Enemies try to intercept on the way." But another time you might get "The dropoff was an ambush" or "The cargo is dangerous" (or both of those at the same time). Create enough building blocks, and you can start to disguise the machinery under the hood a little. Computationally this is very cheap because the computer is just doing the equivalent of rolling a handful of dice (I literally have tabletop RPG books that use this idea, with actual tables and dice).

I think some of this has even made it into the game. There were some quests they did with branching paths, that sort of thing. It's an interesting idea that I'd like to see pushed further.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Can you get experience and money for it? If so, what would you spend it on?

[–] ricecooker@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would be onboard if I can kill Benny an infinite number of times

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Easy, peasy. That feature comes with the vanilla game!

After you kill him, press ~, click his body, and type "resurrect". Viola!

[–] Coldgoron@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

If they keep the repeat variety high it can do ok.