Hahaha, they kept trying to convince people again and again that there will NOT be a hardware refresh any time soon. That was only a few months ago.
this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2023
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They were careful with how they phrased it, leaving the possibility of a refresh without a performance uplift still on the table (as speculated by media). It looks like the OLED model's core performance will be only marginally better due to faster RAM, but that the APU itself is the same thing with a process node shrink (which improves efficiency a little).
See also: PCGamer article about an OLED version. They didn't say "no", and (just like with the previously linked article), media again speculated about a refresh happening.
It looks like they were consistent with what they were talking about with how it wasn't simple to just drop in a new screen and leave everything else as-is, and used that opportunity to upgrade basically everything a little bit while they were tinkering with the screen upgrade.
The effiency part becomes a larger feature if it's a mobile device....
Sure, but not much of that battery improvement is coming from migrating the APU's process node. Moving from TSMC's 7nm process to their 6nm process is only an incremental improvement; a "half-node" shrink rather than a full-node shrink like going from their 7nm to their 5nm.
The biggest battery improvement is (almost definitely) from having a 25% larger battery (40Whr -> 50Whr), with the APU and screen changes providing individually-smaller battery life improvements than that. Hence the APU change improving efficiency "a little".
Well yeah, otherwise it will end up like Atari. No sales for the first one because everyone is waiting for the next one.
It's smart. Also, developers have a solid benchmark to set their games to. Console has long had the benefit of a stable hardware set over the course of many years, which makes it easier to develop to the broadest possible market. Skipping incremental APU updates has a benefit of keeping a longer benchmark for game developers hoping to boost sales by targeting the market with handhelds. Valve was pretty clear in their communication in this regard, which is great.
Yeah I was burned and I’m kinda salty about it.
That's not what happened at all. They said they would not be releasing a higher performance version anytime soon. This is just a refresh. Like a Steam Deck 1.8
Just a few tips for people:
I got a 512 LCD at launch prices. I have zero regrets. It is awesome when I go on travel but also great for just hanging out around the house. And while the price is considerably higher than a switch (less so if you go for the entry level pricing), you save a LOT on games since Nintendo Pricing tends to translate to third parties over there too. But you obviously know you.
Will probably "trade in" my current model some time next year for the 512 OLED. 1 TB is tempting, but I have a desktop too. So installing and uninstalling games are almost all network transfers that go really fast because I generally am also playing those games on my desktop. Or even just keeping them installed there because I have the extra storage.
As for trading in: Be INCREDIBLY wary of using ebay. Ebay has incredibly good buyer protections at the cost of almost zero seller protections. If someone receives it and then says "Didn't arrive, go fuck yourself" they get their money back and ebay/paypal will basically tell you to take it up with local police... who won't do shit because ACAB. So stick to local exchanges (and follow all best practices for that) or just keep an eye out for the inevitable amazon or best buy trade in programs. You'll get less, but also will have almost zero stress.
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What I really like is that they double down on hackabilty by switching to metal torx screws, etc.
That, and a Linux system are IMO the main selling points of the SteamDeck, compared to any clones from Asus or Lenovo, etc.
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Well shit. I didn't expect to replace my steam deck so soon, but the extra half an inch plus better battery life could convince me. I use it daily for Final Fantasy XI.
Please announce a trade in program, Valve. Don’t make me use eBay cause I’m not sure it’s worth the hassle at that point.
Try to sell locally
Like put a sign in my front yard or what
Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, gumtree, OfferUp, or whatever the local buy/sell website is
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Stop it Valve, I can only become so erect
Soooo I was looking into buying a steam deck... Guess that's great news
It is. It's a significant upgrade for no price increase.
And if you don't want to get the best model, the old LCD models have crazy discounts right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfoLRmKwnSI
The 90 Hz display is apparently still not VRR
So went from "I NEED THIS" to "I really shouldn't buy it but probably will upgrade during the first sale"
Better battery life, faster wifi and brighter display is definitely enough for me! Though I will have to be able to sell my original one first
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You're not driving the display at 90fps, so a 90 fps container for 30-45 fps content is actually not bad at all, and it should feel pretty smooth even with minor fps drops.
People think VRR is magic sometimes, but it doesn't work well with all types of content. For handheld you're often going to be driving at low fps a high refresh rate can be more relevant sometimes. VRR on top of everything else would be nice, but it's definitely not a must.
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I'm toying with getting a Steam Deck instead of building a gaming PC. I can't afford both. The Steam Deck looks an even better now option now.
A steam deck is definitely not a gaming computer replacement, get a good pc first imo
Depends a lot on the type of games you want to play. AAA or competitive FPS probably gaming PC. Older games, casual, indie, etc. SteamDeck is great.
I have to say that the SteamDeck brought a lot of fun back to gaming for me. Everything's in one package, it's portable, I can play docked or lay in bed. I can suspend it and come back whenever.
I've mainly played the Witcher 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4, Noita, GC roms, Disco Elysium, Dishonored, and Stardew Valley. Some of those games I've owned for a long time and I never played them until I got the SD.
But it does make a great streaming device/glorified controller too when I want to run more demanding stuff on my PC.
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You're being down voted, but it's the truth. Depends a lot on the particular computer though. The biggest consideration is personal value of mobile gaming.
Aside from that, it is damn hard to beat a steam deck in performance at the same price, but if you can stretch to even a bit most gaming desktops will handely out perform one
Depending on your definition of “gaming”, it definitely can be for some folks
I love my deck, but yeah, if OP can get a full desktop, I'd recommend that first. More scalable over time.
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I'm using my steam deck right now as a gaming PC while moving across America.
It works really well. I got a dock from Amazon that gives me the ports to plug in my gaming mouse and keyboard. I can do HDMI out to the hotel TV or, better yet, lead out one USB-c cord to a fantastic portable monitor.
I only ran into two minor issues. The first is getting enough juice to the steam deck and heat. Both can be easily solved with a good fast charging station and better air flow (I use this tiny hyper fan and have had zero issues in 90 degree Florida winter weather).
Of note, I dual boot with Windows 11. It's a bloated mess of an operating system, but I want to use certain mods and programs that windows only. Plus, I'm not tied down to only steam games. The addition of being able to run nearly everything that's Windows compatible takes the deck up a level, I feel.
The best way to get the most out of the Windows environment is to run a debloater admin tool, which removes unnecessary programs on Windows 10+ systems. The difference between the performance is shocking, making it pretty much required for usage. It's not too hard to use, too.
The best part of it all is that you still have a stream deck at the end of the day. You don't have to do any hardware mods. You can pick the deck up and walk out of the house and still have the gaming PC with you.
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Wonder if it would be possible to retrofit the new parts into an existing SteamDeck
I read in a couple spots earlier that the new battery is physically too big and the OLED panel won’t transfer either.
Ah that's unfortunate if true. Ah well I'm happy with my Steam Deck as is. I'm also sure that some YouTubers will find a way anyway 😂
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I'm sold. Specially with how much they talk about modding and repair-ability.
I waited just under a year for my preorder.
Yes, I will buy the OLED one, and pass the original to my son.
Finally I can buy one
I've been holding off on getting a steam deck since I wanted to get their second version rather than being a beta tester for the first
If stability and reliability are paramount to you, you might consider getting the older version. At this point the hardware has been well tested and I feel like you might be beta testing less on a gen 1 vs a gen 2. That being said my personal experience is that I've never felt like a beta tester for valve and I'm sure you'll be happy with either. Cheers!
It's more like a gen 1.5, valve stated that hardware hasn't progressed far enough for a true gen 2 steam deck
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Damn, very much tempted to sell mine and buy this OLED version; the LCD screen is pretty much the only feature I dislike.
What would be a fair price to sell a used 256gb version with no damage?
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Looks this is a refresh for those who were on the edge of buying one or those who really love OLED.
Personally, I would've instantly sold mine and upgraded if these also had VRR. Hopefully the proper next generation of these devices comes with it.
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This is a really nice mid-gen refresh, IMO. It drives the entry point prices down (when was the last time you saw THAT in tech?) and it makes some really nice improvements to the newer SKUs.
I don't think it's a must-buy if you already own one, but if I was still using a Deck as a daily driver I would certainly consider it. The idea of a 10 hour battery on a handheld PC is super appealing for me, considering how often I'm playing stuff at 5W.
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Welp, my friend bought his one month ago lol
Me too lol. It is what it is though I’m happy with it.
So… more importantly, what’s the story with the HDR support? I know there was something with gamescope supporting it. Is this something that’s finally going to be available on a normal Linux desktop?
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This thing also available at launch in Australia or nah those cunts can get fucked like usual?
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