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I have heard people having issues with archiving emails using protonmail. Curious to hear of people's email provider and why?

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I use Proton Mail and archive all of my emails, no issues. I'm very happy with Proton.

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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Posteo. Quite happy with it and it fits my needs.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Archiving emails? I am with Proton and don't have any issues.

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Same here, no issues

[–] ripe_banana@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I use proton.

If archiving means downloading locally without encryption (or non-proton encryption), then I use proton bridge and mu4e.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

I actually self host it on a Raspberry Pi. Downside is that I can't set up reverse DNS lookup, so some email providers won't let me sent emails to them but it's not a huge issue for me because I rarely send emails anyway. I mostly use my email for registrating accounts and that sort of stuff.

[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Used to use proton but switched to mullvad vpn and tutanota (email+calendar) for better linux and android support. Protons linux vpn client is literally unusable for me (I don't use networkmanager, and it only supports that) and they don't support ipv6 while mullvad worked instantly for me and supports ipv6, and proton doesn't have a linux email client, and their email app isn't on fdroid and depends on google play services. Tutanota has a good linux client, is on fdroid, and doesn't depend on google

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't work for Proton, but I don't think you looked for the required info: you can set up OpenVPN or wireguard without using NetworkManager or the ProtonVPN application:

https://protonvpn.com/support/linux-openvpn/

https://protonvpn.com/support/wireguard-manual-linux/

But all other criticisms stand. I'm using Protonmail at the moment and I hate that they don't have native integration of contacts/calendar for Android. I think I'll move out next year, when my subscription expires.

[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

You technically can, but when it's all that work and research vs open app, sign in, hit connect, and you're done, I don't regret switching

Also, from more of a branding side, all those things imply to me that proton doesn't value the same things I do or at least their priorities are different from mine. So I'd rather take my business to other platforms that do care about and cater to my use cases 🤷

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mailbox.org

Whe I moved away from Gmail it was the only one that had an offer that I liked: email, cloud, contacts, calendar, office stuff (groupware) AND it had (at the time) a very flexible price. I didn't need lots of storage and Mailbox was the only one that had the option to change capacity. Now it doesn't. Either way, still very good. The web client is a bit slow and I'm not a fan of how they handle 2FA, but still better than Gmail for me.

I did want to go with disroot, I forget why I didn't. Proton didn't have a calendar when I was shopping around. Do you still need a separate app for Proton or does it have IMAP now?

[–] Vexz@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I second mailbox.org. Great email provider that I use too.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

iCloud Mail, because using custom domains and "Hide My Email" aliases are included in iCloud+ which I have anyway (any storage subscription includes access to iCloud+), it's free and it works fairly well.

But ProtonMail and the likes are obviously way better in terms of privacy, but iCloud Mail works for me.

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[–] solitude@lemmy.one 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm still testing a few. The following list is favorite to least favorite after a month or so of use:

Skiff (free version - 10GB storage) - Using webmail is easy and straight forward, cell app is about the same. REALLY like that you basically get 4 email accounts (1 main and 3 alias account names), which is different than the others below. With the different aliases, this gives me an option to use Skiff for everything (if I choose to put it all in "one basket” - for personal, business and purchases/spam type uses). No integrated calendar, but significantly larger storage is a big plus. Otherwise, separate calendar app is fine, and they seem to be regularly making improvements. They also just implemented: "Quick Aliases are on mobile! Looking to protect your identity on mobile? You can now claim maskmy.id domains on mobile and use them to create privacy-protecting aliases that forward to your Skiff account."

Tutanota (free - 1GB) - Using webmail is easy and straight forward as well, cell app about same. Main problem is, I’m never going to say “my email is xxxxx@TUTAmail.com” to anyone I know, especially business acquaintances. Name just sounds like something my mother or grandparents were scammed into using. They just changed the name from Tutanota to Tuta for some reason, so they could have taken the opportunity to come up with something different. However, the integrated calendar is nice, instead of a separate app. I've always swiped right to delete an email, but that's archive on this app, and there is no option to change it. It's been requested to have this option coded in (which it has been on Skiff) from others for year/s prior and no change has been made, so not expecting a lot of updates / improvements going forward.

Proton (free - 1GB, 500MB before doing 4 "tasks") - Using webmail, cell app and separate calendar are all fine, I just prefer the other two so far.

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Same plus Gmail for auto login junk

[–] txtsd@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've been with MXRoute 1 for over a year. It has an amazing reputation, stemming from a relatively strict set of rules. Jarland, the owner, is always on top of things doing maintenance, resolving incidents, and banning spammers and misusers.

I went with the lifetime account and it's been an absolute boon getting away from Google.

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. It may lack encryption that many look for, but I have accepted that email is too old to ever be truly secure. Most email is either coming from, or going to services provided by big tech companies anyway. I prefer an open, fully standards compliant email service over a locked down service that provides minimal additional security.

[–] txtsd@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Correct. If one requires encrypted email, one is better off using OpenPGP.

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've been paying one euro per month for posteo for almost a decade now.

[–] Polyester6435@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

I've also been using posteo for a long time and I gotta say, if you just want email, calDAV and cardDAV which will work with any email client its great

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you use your own domain there?

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[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] kurdunkaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Mailbox.org

[–] Silejonu@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago
[–] LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Recently got invited to try the very new Port87 email, been working great so far! https://port87.com

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Skiff.com I wanted to degoogle and Proton seems too bloated for me right now, too flashy and all. Same reason I cannot get used to thunderbird, I just need an email client not a whole suite. (Recommendations welcome haha)

[–] BlissCarack@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Protonmail.com works best for me

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

I'm on a friend's mail server with my own domain pointing at it.

That plus a catchall address means I can give out different email addresses to every website, app, and service provider without having to rely on things like Gmail's plus addresses being accepted. That makes it really easy to tell who leaked my address to spammers – and to filter out the resulting spam.

Add to that Thunderbird's built-in address spoofing functionality and I can even do that for outgoing mail.

So whether you go self-hosted or have a provider that allows custom domains, I can really recommend setting one up. They're not too expensive (unless you go with some of the more exotic gTLDs) and I consider hassle-free per-service email addresses to be a game changer.

[–] MajorSauce@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I use Zoho with 4 domains that I own. Love their service, price and their blogs about what they are doing and plan to do.

[–] Crabhands@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Protonmail with Blur Abine for most shopping or junk.

3 proton emails, 1 for gaming, 1 for anything with my real name, and 1 with my fake name.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Protonmail with Tutanota as a backup.

My college email is Google though. So I have to use that if I want to make an appointment with someone from the college or if I need to message a lecturer. Gmail is Fine*, the app is functional etc. But I don't like Google as a company. Their reach and management give me pause. Would rather they get broken up and invest more in FOSS. But I'm doubtful I'll see that any time soon.

[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

Fastmail and proton

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Been using Tutanota with my own domain for a while. works pretty well for me

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[–] bertmacho@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

purelymail.com Cheap and never had a problem wirh them.

[–] loki@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Protonmail for privacy, gmail for whatever else, and anonaddy for aliases for different websites.

[–] Decentralizr@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Used proton from almost day one, and moved a few months ago to skiff. I like what they offer and how they improve and implement

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Proton, because fuck Google

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

I just pay for hosting 🤷. It uses Titan mail as an interface or whatever but it's stored on my server space.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

My own and as a side piece, also Tutamail, but the free tier.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago
[–] vejoshiraptor@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

I’m using HEY but funnel some stuff through Addy.io. One Addy alias points to Guerrilla Mail.

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

M365, $6/mo and includes 1tb of OneDrive storage.

[–] coughrelief@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Disroot and posteo

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