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Millennials: It's ok to mourn the death of social media::Wired writes how "first-gen social media users have nowhere to go." Ouch.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 238 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm just excited the internet is in part going back to its non corporate backed roots with Lemmy mastodon and the like. The internet started that way, and thanks to the enshitification it will hopefully slowly revert back to it

The idea that corporations were involved in social media was insane looking back. The results were exactly what one would have anticipated

[–] darreninthenet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do we have a Fediverse equivalent of Facebook yet..?

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

yes, Friendica has been around for longer than Mastodon has.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Mastodon has rich media features and such that it could be considered a replacement for modern Facebook.

Now for the legacy Facebook that was more focused on the Facebook wall, homepages, and etc. There really isn’t a replacement but nobody can use Facebook for that now.

As for a replacement for Facebook groups, kbin or Lemmy can do it. Kbin does both the microblogging/status updates and communities.

Someone else mentioned frendica. But I don’t have any experience with that.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If by "mourn" you mean "tap-dance on its fucking grave," then sure!

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just moved to Miami and don't know where to meet groups of like-minded people. There is nothing on MeetUp, but there are groups on Facebook. I hate that I had to sign into that garbage fire for the first time in years. My whole feed is filled with "suggested posts" of people I don't know nor things I give a shit about.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you did move to Miami.. why are you expecting sophistication?

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[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only mourne reddit, that website was a lifestyle back in the day. Thats why i'm here lol. God I miss the good oll' days.

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Yeah, it is a bit strange. That was a central hub of where I got news, jokes, stayed connected with internet culture. That's mostly gone now. So many things feel splintered anymore. I'm old so I don't keep up with the latest games, but that feels all over the place---too many games, too many communities. Streaming/TV stuff---very few people I know watch the same things I do, and I miss the joy of watching something new and then talking about it the next day moments. Worse now is that most people can't even access the same content since there are too many services. Music is strange now too. Partly, I'm just not connected to pop culture, but also everyone is listening to VERY different stuff (referring to college-age folks---most other millennials I know just listen to NPR, podcasts and 90s mixes). There doesn't seem to be any monolithic music culture at all anymore. Everyone has super customized spotify playlists. I know a big part is just millennial aging, but also reddit kept me connected to broader things, and now its just like everything else and enshittified and disappearing. sigh ... get off my lawn I guess :(

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a central hub of where I got news, jokes, stayed connected with internet culture. That’s mostly gone now. So many things feel splintered anymore.

Its returned closer to what the internet was BEFORE reddit. People cultivated lists of bookmarks for sites they'd visit for their daily special interests. Lemmy is still a larger audience than what we had before. For jokes you might go to fark.com or somethingawful.com. These were the user driven humor aggregators of the day.

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[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There doesn’t seem to be any monolithic music culture at all anymore. Everyone has super customized spotify playlists.

I've noticed this too. In some ways it makes it harder to find new music.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes it harder to find popular music, but way easier to find music that appeals to you personally

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[–] Tat@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fuck reddit, shell of its former self

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

ya, thats why i'm here.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Looks like a small formatting issue:
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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Guess Sync doesn't support subscript

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[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Idk. I feel mentally healthier off social media. But its been around since I was in high school and I have no idea how to socialize with people outside my immediate circle now. My social muscles have atrophied.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone who was on the internet before social media existed, please let it die in a fire.

Everything now is curated and cultivated by corporations and political entities to weed out any "unacceptable" discourse and content that doesn't support a particular agenda or narrative.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

100% agree. I was learning networking and internet coding back when Javascript was new, web 2.0 was going to revolutionize our lives, and Macromedia was releasing a little animation software called Flash. As an elder Millenial I can confidently say that the death of social media would be the absolute best thing that could happen for our society as a whole. The society was not mature enough for it, still aren't. Maybe next time it is invented we will be ready and someone will remember to keep the damn corporations out of it.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't mourn "social media." I mourn what we had before they started using that phrase.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Facebook was actually awesome back in the late 2000s. I had an account when it was just 4 year universities, that was it's hey day.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mourning? More like dancing on its grave. With the fediverse being everything social media 1.0 was and more, there is no need for the legacy platforms. I just hope that the fediverse can get some more traction with folks outside tech circles and we can normalize cooperation and free social platforms as in free speech not as in free beer.

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[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Once advertising got involved, it was all downhill from there.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Social media is like a public toilet; anyone is free to use it, no one should drink from it." -Llama2 70B by Meta

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[–] alonely0@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago

Gen Z, I mourned Reddit for 30 seconds. Now I'm here.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I feel like it should read, “Millenials, remember to drink water in between your champagne glasses while you’re toasting to the death of social media.”

[–] Sygheil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, forums are more organic old school is cool.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Forums are social media as well, though. They just have different features. "Social media" are all websites and applications which allow sharing of content between users.

I think a forum was just less anonymous. I never remember any name on Lemmy, for example. On the forums ~back in the day~ I actually got to know the people. We even had forum meetings in real life.

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[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

The worst is the ever-shortening of content into an addictive format. It reduces mental clarity.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Especially fuck meta and xitter.

[–] HERRAX@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

Worst part is that they actually started out kind of great, and killed all alternatives. Then they became progressively worse because of their predatory algorithms and whatnot, and now it's borderline impossible to get friends and family to switch to an alternative like mastodon or pixelfed...

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Social Media is cancer. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 1 year ago

Imagine mourning the death of social media.

I mourn its creation.

[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The thing that threw me off Facebook was the 2016 election and the Cambridge Analytica scandal, even though I ran a popular meme page. I thought I found a sanctuary on Reddit, but looking back everything major on it was shilled to advertise or sow political discord. I thought Google Plus had a lot of potential, but nobody I knew would join and y’know, Google’s privacy record.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as humans are social creatures, and the Internet connects us, there will be social media in some form or another.

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[–] metaphortune@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I grew up on forums / IRC / IMs, later transitioned to Myspace, then Twitter / Facebook / Tumblr / Instagram. I had a lot of fun over the years, it definitely saddens me that I can't get the things I liked about those experiences back.

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[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not over though, it's really just beginning again.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something tells me the editorial staff at Buisness Insider might have a harder time than most visualizing an online social landscape built around being, y'know, social, and not for profit.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I for one celebrate the inevitable crash/death of all this social media. It's turned normal people into unacceptable drooling trash. That is if you're able to ignore the data collection and use of it, in which case it turned the whole internet into a dumpster fire as well.

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[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 16 points 1 year ago

On one hand, it's a bit sad to see the average person not know about the Fediverse and claim "welp, there's nowhere else to go, it's either staying on the same ten junkyards I know or quitting cold-turkey". On the other hand, the relative obscurity kind of comes from the fact that there's no single main instance of the Fediverse. Sure there's things like Mastodon.Social, Lemmy.ML and Misskey.GG that concentrate most users of their niche, but by nature, there is not (and should not be) a centralized place where everybody is, that can be used as the poster child for the Fediverse.

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

More like piss over the grave

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not mourning, I've just done what I've done every few years for at least a decade now and just found a new fucking home. Plus, I think this and mastodon will be my home for awhile now since the decentralized nature of it makes it really easy to avoid the bullshit that brought me here.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Hopefully it's just the death of surveillance and fake news infested social media with censors ensuring you don't deviate from the Overton window.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Bots and spam have ruined social media for me. I wish there was a private social media.

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