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Jewish man succumbs to wounds day after altercation at pro-Palestinian protest in LA (www.timesofisrael.com)

submitted 10 months ago by steventhedev@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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“An autopsy was performed on November 6th and the Ventura County Medical Examiner’s Office determined the cause of death to be blunt force head injury and the manner of death homicide.”

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Tragic.

La daily news article

Rabbi Michael Barclay of Temple Ner Simcha in Westlake Village, near Thousand Oaks, urged people to avoid jumping to conclusions about what happened.

He said police are being cautious before making accusations. “We need to do the same; and not let this become a spark that starts an inferno,” he wrote.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Before people use this incident to instigate hate, I will point out even in the thumbnail photo, people are assisting the man from both protest groups.

Because most people from both groups just want peace. They just don't agree on the definition of peace. But both of them want the war to stop. If only they were in agreement on the details, they would get along.

So I would say that they were, in general, good people. And that's why they helped him.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

israel is actively advocating for and committing genocide to expand their lebensraum. Even in the west bank where the is no Hamas.

You cannot in good conscience say anyone supporting israel wants peace. That's like saying people waving a Russian flag only want peace in Ukraine, but even worse since Russia only wants to annex Ukraine instead of replace it's population with their own israeli Ubermensch.

[+] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social -29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If it was by a megaphone, that implies it was by a organizer which doesn't look good. It's already hard enough to not look anti-semitic while supporting Palestine without these events happening all around the world. (Plus synagogues getting threatened and so forth.)

[–] Mardukas@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

We shouldn't jump to conclusions

Immediately jumps to conclusions

[–] TooSoon@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course the 19 day old account is jumping to conclusions. That’s what it was created for in the first place.

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This account is lot older than 19 days. I had to recreate it when my instance exploded recently =( Anyway, just musing. Hopefully the story is a lot different.

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social -2 points 10 months ago

Haha I said "if". It's a comment section, there's nothing else to do but comment.

[+] kevinbacon@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Palestinians are semites too, how can supporting semites be anti-semitic?

[–] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

because your defintion of the word is wrong. Here is the worldwide accepted definition of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism)[a] is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews.[2][3][4] This sentiment is a form of racism,[5][6] and a person who harbours it is called an antisemite.

and especially regarding your statement:

Though 'antisemitism' could be construed as prejudice against people who speak other Semitic languages, this is not how the term is commonly used.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

The word is completely wrong, not his definition. Not all semites are Jews. The semites are a race of people that originate from the region of Palestine including Arabs. Arab is a Semitic language.

If anything the Palestinians look a lot more like Semites than the Zionists from Europe.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/semite

It's like saying being anti-black would mean you hate Christians because some black people in Africa used to be Christian.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That sounds like one of those "I can't be racist against African Americans since all of us are from Africa originally" lines.

You know what is meant by the word and words are defined by usage not by origin.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Succumbs to wounds" do you mean was murdered? Cause that is what that is.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I think it is one of those things where they can't call it a crime yet.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Proof that it was the police

[–] stella@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like a bug is going around where everyone feels the need to rewrite headlines over the slightest thing.

Is it just an easy way to get upvotes?

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Im calling out the euphemisation of the headline to make the murder sound less horrible.

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I hope the president does something before the pogroms start.