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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Should have went to definitelynotafed.gov

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I feel like this story is repeated every few years.

Reality is not a mob movie. There are no cleaners for hire. Just the FBI.

[–] Iusedtobeanadventurer@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

There are absolutely, unequivocally, killers for hire. You just aren't going to find them on the hitman equivalent of Amazon dot fucking com.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Said somebody who has obviously never hired a hitman

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

Well, a mechanic fixes their own car...

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

1-800-GET-GOON.

They’re none too bright, but at least you know they’re not Feds.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Be careful, you might accidentally dial 1-800-3-GOONER

[–] shadmere@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Hired goons?

[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

They should have their slogan be "Our cleaner fees are cheaper than Airbnb!"

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 7 points 10 months ago

Clandestine meeting … at Waffle House

Happens more often than you’d think.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Not that I have a ton of sympathy for the people who fall for it, but this feels like shades of entrapment? I understand it isn't, because it's a private host who just made a silly funny site. But this story keeps happening every few years, and obviously there is no other hits on searches looking for hitmen. But, I just feel like the creator has to be slightly responsible for the people ruining their lives by emailing this site.

Granted, dumb gullible people, but still. Idk.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Per the article, the FBI doesn’t run the website. That’s not entrapment. The owner reported her when she made a serious inquiry on a parody site.

[–] Damaskox@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Part of me is interested to check out this parody site for curiosity.

Part of me doesn't want to take chances ending up on some police list 😂

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I did it. It’s slightly funny, but also the article describes it pretty well.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I know. I talked about that in my original post.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, not disagreeing with you on any part except the entrapment. If I say “fuck you” to a dude on the street and he stabs me, he still can get charged for trying to kill me. That’s not entrapment.

[–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not entrapment because she wasn't convinced, coerced or forced by law enforcement to try and hire a hitman from that site; she did so entirely willingly and without intervention from law enforcement.

To use the entrapment defence, the defendant has to prove law enforcement had a hand in getting them to do something they otherwise wouldn't have done.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Not exactly a lawyer, but I think it's legal because it's a private party operating the site and making a report, not LE.

[–] cgarret3@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I was corrected below, I had it wrong. But I’ll leave my original post unaltered, just know to read further

You’ve got some replies already, but I (not a lawyer) feel like you don’t quite have “entrapment” right.

Entrapment is when an average person might be duped into doing something unlawful in a circumstance where it might appear lawful or at least appear moral to the average person.

I don’t trust this example to hold up entirely, but here is a go at it: hitchhiking is illegal most places in the US, but should an officer pose as a hitchhiker that appears mortally wounded beg for a ride, you pick them up to take to the hospital, then they fine you for picking up a hitchhiker, would constitute as entrapment

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Points for effort, but you still have it wrong.

Entrapment is when someone is convinced by a law enforcement agent to do something they wouldn't normally do. That's the key. The cops open up a shop for something completely illegal, you decide to walk in and buy whatever they purport to sell, straight to jail, not entrapment.

An undercover cop says "hey, we should go do X crime" "I don't know man, pretty sure that's illegal, I don't want to do it" "nah it'll be fine, you won't do it, no balls, I'll give you a huge cut", that's entrapment.

Typing these out, "entrapment" is not the most descriptive term, because the fake storefront is certainly a trap, but it's not legal entrapment.