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[โ€“] rustyfish@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Queen H1 to F1?

Edit: Iโ€™m still an idiot.

[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Pg2

Edit: Apparently I'm being downvoted by somebody who doesn't understand white starts on row 1

[โ€“] dreadgoat@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Qd3 Bg3 I think, followed by promotion

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[โ€“] jafea7@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's what I would have thought, leaves the King nowhere to go and there's nothing to block/capture the Queen.

[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] jafea7@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Doh! My bad, 40+ years since I played.

I'll shut up now ๐Ÿค

[โ€“] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Pawn to G2?

[โ€“] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Bc6 Rb2 Trying to mate on g2 and defending.

I'm not sure where to go from there, either bg2+ or nf4+

Either case I can't find a forced mate in my head atleast

[โ€“] Bonifratz@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good start. You don't have to calculate all the way to mate in that line, White gets an overwhelming advantage.

But more interestingly: What do you do after Bc6 Rb1+?

[โ€“] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  1. Bc6 Rb1+

  2. Ke2 Rxh1

  3. Bg2+ Kxg2

  4. Nf4+ Kg1

  5. Ke1 g2

  6. Ne2

[โ€“] Bonifratz@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)
  1. Bc6 Rb1+

  2. Ke2 Rxh1

3.Bg2+ Kxg2

4.Nf4+ Kg1

5.Ne1 G2

6.Ne2#

Edit K for knight to N

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

It appears I'm an idiot too

I'm very new to chess annotation and i keep using k for knight and king.

[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It seems to be open ended if black doesn't take queen, though

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

What's interesting is if black moves to Rf4 and ignores the queen i see how it gets very open ended

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Bishop moves to g2 checkmate of it doesn't check the king.

If it does then the king walks back towards the rook. Until it takes it or the rook doesn't check the king ending the game

[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It gets all very messy if black doesn't take the bate it seems

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[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago
[โ€“] Bonifratz@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nicely done! You solved the main (study) line. There's other lines where Black actually holds out longer, but they're much simpler to calculate.

[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What happens if black declines the queen? Too lazy to calculate it out at this point

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Anything it seems. But I'm probably missing a lot

[โ€“] apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's meant to be Ke1 G2 as Ne1 is an illegal move but that's just a notation issue

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[โ€“] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I need the reddit bot to try it online.

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

No that's no good either, then castle comes to check

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hang on im still onto it.

New plan

Bc6

Rb1 checking king

Kd2

Rb2 checking King

Kc1

Rook must leave or be taken. Anywhere doesnt matter.

Qg2 checkmate

[โ€“] Bonifratz@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Right, but what about 1. Bc6 Rb1+ 2. Kd2 Rxh1?

[โ€“] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (17 children)
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[โ€“] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Does it involve Ke2, Pg2, Qe1? Ending with Qc1, Qh6

Edit nvm I'm dumb

[โ€“] Bonifratz@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately no. After 1. Ke2 g2 2. Qe1 Black has a simple way to win the queen, and after 2. Qc1 Black can at at the very least promote the pawn and there will never be a checkmate for White.

[โ€“] gabbagabbahey@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
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