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Is important to have options from a moral compass such as only EA CEO's can be.

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because monopolies famously never go badly for anyone.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It confuses me how this is a monopoly.

I keep hearing people call it that, but it doesn't fit the definition as I understand it.

I'm not saying this much consolidation is a good thing, don't misunderstand, I just don't think it's reached monopoly levels.

[–] msage@programming.dev 11 points 10 months ago

Just because it's not complete doesn't mean it's not going there

[–] tarsn@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't have to be a monopoly to be shit, oligopolies are crap for consumers too

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

This. Seeing 1-2, maybe 3 major players in many industries now. "No monopolies here" may be true, but misses the point that the outcome is the same. This new conglomerate has just that much more capability to fuck over the little guy.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's just it, it's not a monopoly yet. But it's not as far off as you'd like to think. Just look at where the biggest money is in the market then look at who's attached to who. When you consider just how big of a third-party power Activision was in the industry and see it get swallowed up by a first party company, it's terrifying and the fact that even governments had their eyes on this merger should be telling. Comparatively, take a look at how slow they were to even look they they were doing something about all the rampant child gambling that is "surprise mechanics". Personally, I don't care for the companies that were bought so I won't be missing out and I'm on PC so if a rare diamond pops up, I still won't be in the dark but think about one of the most anti-consumer practices that already goes on in the market; exclusivity. Yeah, they've said they aren't going to make CoD exclusive but corporations tend to lie in their favor - im not going to pretend Sony and Nintendo aren't just as bad, I really wish they'd all cut that crap out but here we are. But when one of the biggest powers suddenly buys another of the biggest slices of the market, suddenly the market becomes imbalanced. MS already has both Xbox and Windows in regards to platforms. If we're only looking at CoD, then Nintendo isn't effected but Sony gets to enjoy a lot of those CoD players too. For now, Sony will be having to pay their competition for the games and in the long term might not even have that choice and is how a large power in a market begins to erode away before vanishing. Long term, it turns into an oligopoly - look how well that's gone for the North American telecommunications market and tell me how good one of those is before it can even become a monopoly.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t see them being anti-consumer until they buy Nintendo

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo is perhaps the most anti-consumer major gaming company, followed by Sony and then Microsoft. All things considered, Microsoft ownership is the better of the three for consumers, but that doesn't mean every decision Microsoft makes is good for consumers.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s that if they started walling things off now then buying Nintendo would never be approved

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo would never sell to them anyways. Nintendo executives are so stubborn they'd dissolve the whole company before selling out to Microsoft or Sony, though if they ever were to sell they'd be far more likely to sell to Microsoft than Sony.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn’t really matter when Microsoft has stated that as a goal

https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/19/23880146/phil-spencer-microsoft-xbox-acquiring-nintendo#

So if they are working towards that then logically they would work towards that

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Any company would say that. Literally any company would acquire one of their major competitors if the opportunity arose. The same thing can be said that Sony would also purchase Nintendo if they could afford to do so. This doesn't mean Microsoft is actively trying to buy them.

Microsoft previously tried to purchase Nintendo already, or they offered some kind of collaboration deal in the early 2000s, and Nintendo declined. Nintendo will always decline sale.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So at which point is it too late in your eyes? When the ball is rolling or when it's already plowed into a car and caused a 15-car pile-up?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d say it was too late decades ago

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And yet we could stop the ball from rolling at some point...

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean idealistically or do you think that politicians are above accepting any amount of money they can offer

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Definitely idealistically. Realistically, this world never stops sucking.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Funny thing is that Activision-Blizzard was so bad that many people figured a Microsoft takeover probably couldn't make it worse...

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If nothing else the toxic management probably goes away.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, Microsoft lacks the competence and loyalty for a cover-up.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's great for EA, because they can probably buy another publisher and point to being smaller than Microsoft.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

I thought they were trying to be bought.

But still maintain complete independence somehow.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

He saw the "Please drink verification can" greentext and thought "Hey that's a pretty good idea!".

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago