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Mother of 12-year-old carjacking suspect turned him in to police (www.nbcwashington.com)

submitted 10 months ago by Salamendacious@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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An attempted carjacking Saturday night left a 13-year-old dead after a security officer shot him; another boy, 12, is in custody

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[–] Hillock@kbin.social 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people seem to mistake carjacking for car theft. Especially mentioning that the person who shot the 13 year old was a security officer gives a wrong impression on what happened.

Carjacking is when the robber(s) take control of a car with a person inside the car. This is what happened here, with the security guard being inside the car. Under these circumstances it's perfectly reasonable to consider shooting the robbers and it's unreasonable to expect the security guard being able to identify the robber as a 13-year old harmless child. There is significant plausible risk to the person inside the car to warrent lethal force during self-defense.

Car theft is stealing an empty car. Shooting someone would be entirely unreasonable during a car theft.

The article doesn't mention wether the car had window tint and the two kids where unaware of the person inside or if they intentionally tried to rob the person. That information might change what can be considered reasonable response.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Imagine how fucked and shitty your life has to be, to be a 12 or 13 year old trying to carjack people.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Not bad at all. Rich kids do horrific shit all the time. Like rape people, drive drunk and kill people, etc etc forever. This is just some kid who played gta, had some mental issues, went out and did shit, then didn’t have rich immoral parents to pay people off and bury it.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I didn't suggest rich kids were immune?

[–] soloner@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's lemmy! Where regardless of what topic you bring, you'll just get "rich people suck" and "fuck capitalism" as incoherent, tone deaf responses.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not tone deaf. They’re saying that their life must suck. I’m saying that shitty behavior isn’t related to quality of life. I get that you’re center-right and middle class and tired of having to hear people talk about topics that don’t apply to you personally. But… grow up.

[–] velxundussa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Being rich doesn't mean your life doesn't suck, just that you don't have money problems.

[–] pozbo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Did you have a shitty childhood too?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

But they are. 🤷‍♂️

[–] danjr@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

Being rich and having a fucked up and shitty life aren't mutually exclusive.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We did some pretty fucked up things when I was a teenager and while our lives did suck, the risky choices and crime were from being young and stupid, not poverty.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Having nothing to lose is a hell of a thing

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Being in prison or the juvenile court system is rarely an improvement regardless of how much your life sucks.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Imagine how many people have shitty lives and don't carjack people at 12.

[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago

Note to thread: An off-duty security officer with the U.S. Marshal's Service is not a security guard.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Rumour has it that she called him by his full name -- middle name and all.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And took off her slipper?

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Kamehamechancla!

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

La Chancla! 🩴

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The worst part of this is that a security guard (not even a police officer) shot and killed a 13 year old child for attempting to steal a car. No one's life is worth more than some vehicle

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

They approached from both sides of the car with their hand on their waistbands as if they had a weapon. Was he supposed to magic his way out of that? Talk to them? Plead?

He had a gun. They threatened a person with a gun. This is what happens sometimes when you do that. It's the risk you assume when you take up carjacking. It's a high-risk occupation.