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Curious if anyone has any insight into using Ublock Origin with tor browser at all?

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[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Using Tor Browser with anything but its ootb configuration defeats the whole point, so... no

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I slightly disagree. Adding addons and stuff does defeat the whole point, but Tor comes out of the box with JS enabled, and disabling JS makes life better for Tor users.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

i do

i use tor not for anonymity but for privacy from my isp. Where i live, they're legally obliged to keep a record of all my connections.

and i use uBlock to filter all 3rd party connections, annoyances, ads &c.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldnt a vpn do the job but give faster speed?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

tor is fast enough for browser use

vpn too has its place for privacy. i don't need to choose one. good to have choices for different conditions :)

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't use plugins or customize the Tor browser, because it makes you stand out from the crowd. The point is to have everyone's browser look exactly the same to fingerprinters.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Meaning it's more or less the only situation where you jve to suffer through the ads ^__^ Which could me used to deliver malware to you? 🧐

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's a fair concern. I usually run the Tor browser in a VM to limit the potential damage.

[–] redw0rm@kerala.party 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Tor on Tails come with ublock origin ? I don't get why Tor doesn't come with it preinstalled too

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

That is correct. Tor Browser on Tails comes with uBlock Origin. It might be that DDG (or some other financial supporters) are not happy if the Tor Project ships TB with uBlock. There are many things to be blocked by uB even on DDG, Brave, MetaGer, etc. (although obviously they are much less invasive than you-know-what search engines). Purely privacy-wise they're annoying of course. But understandably they do need to monetize something to provide search engines, and I think some of them are financially supporting the Tor Project too, or they're helping each other, so... I don't know. Just a guess.

Isn't it like Mozilla has to be nice to Google? Ultimately, doesn't this mean that end users are not making enough donations? People say privacy and freedom are important, but normal people really don't like to pay for these important things, like assuming libre is like free beer!

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

I do, but I keep default settings within Ublock. I figure theres probably enough other Tor users using Ublock that it won't stand out too much, and frankly, the internet feels unusable without an ad blocker nowdays.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My question is why isn't ublock installed by default

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 10 points 11 months ago

It is on mullvad browser which is a joint project between Tor and mullvad. At this point I think it's just historical inertia preventing ublock origin from running inside the tor browser bundle by default.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

I do, though I only use Tor to keep my ISP, and by extention my country, from learning which sites I visit. As such, it is of little concern to me, if the website I'm visiting can fingerprint me.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago

Only tailsOS is worth doing this safely.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Yes because the internet without ublock origin is straight up unusable for me lol

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

Yes. If I don't, browsing the average page over the Tor network can take minutes for it to fully load. With uBO, the same page might take at most a minute to load. It's all the tracking garbage that gets shoveled down the link these days. All things being equal with the Tor Browser Bundle, all the tracking crap adds up to a fairly large volume of data being downloaded across an overlay network connection with fairly limited bandwidth.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Affecting the fingerprint defeats the purpose.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yes, ublock origin is a must have to make the internet work for me.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

so my school chromebook blocks ublock origin

anyway I was browsing the internet normally at school yesterday

i kept getting those weird temu banner ads with the dildos and shit

i reported the ad, clicked it was inappropriate MULTIPLE TIMES, and I KEPT GETTING IT, EXCEPT EVEN MORE OFTEN!