Working 70-90 hours on your own dream vs working 70-90 hours for someone else's dream while you get less than scraps. Totally equivalent in the minds of the completely deranged, aka the rich.
this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2023
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Personally I work 80 hours a week often, but I do it for me. It advances my career, makes my day easier as I move to better jobs and gives me more money. I don't intend on doing it forever and I'm not blind to what a normal week looks like. I want to retire early.
I can't imagine working like that because I need to feed my family / pay bills/ stay above water. It's a totally different situation.
I've done that in the past and I just ceased to be productive after about 50 hours of work a week maybe 60. This was in software development which is a cushy number really.
The computer screen just becomes a garbled bunch of pixels with no meaning to me anymore and I have to stop. I can't imagine doing it for a manual labour job and I certainly can't imagine doing it for 80 hours.
I've done 12 hours shift jobs as well and they're in nightmare for productivity. But who cares as long as you've got asses on seats that's the main thing right? You got to look like you're being productive, actually being productive is more or less irrelevant.
Yeah for me to work double, I'd need enough to work one year and take a vacation the next.
He worked for 80-90 hours and built Infosys. What does the common man working for Infosys get on working for 70 hours. Is he getting compensated well for it, is he getting bonus more than his colleagues for the dedication. Is he getting any guarantee that when the time comes for his retirement or suspension his dedication to the company would be considered.
If not then then stop modern slavery.
An Indian friend of mine has the same dedicated self-exploitative mindset. Obviously companies in Austria love it. In the end it just made me realise it won't be enough to fight for workers rights on a local level...
Maybe not, but it's much better to fight for local rights than to wait for The Revolution to come fix everything.
It's always better to do sth than to wait.. wasn't really my point tho. You can fight for international awareness today and now, it just needs a different toolset.
And long-term those geographical barriers will melt beyond recognition anyhow, just like the polecaps.
Infosys is one of the mass recruiting companies in India, meaning they hire freshers on a large scale and soon many of them are churned out of the system. It is not a company the brightest here aspire for.
Also, just because he worked for 70 hours, doesn't mean the next generation should as well. By that logic, one could say hey, in our days, child Labour was common, why abolish it?. The days of working that many hours should become the exception rather than the norm. And no one, should be working, more than 40 hrs a week in any case, especially when working on someone else's vision. Narayan Murthy built a decent company and is(or should I use 'was' because his statements seem to become stupider by the day) considered a business leader by many in India. Maybe if he shut up his mouth instead of axing his own foot it would be better.
So is this really a media push to get India to work even more? This 70 hour bullshit is showing up everywhere lately