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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems

In what world? I've just started using it at work, and I swear the other day it tried to sell me an XBox controller. Not like I was on the Web and an ad popped up, no. It was part of the operating system!

Can you imagine going back in time 10 years and telling somebody "In the future, Microsoft is going to put pop-up ads in Windows." People would think you were crazy!

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. The phrase "Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems" brings to my mind an image of a malformed non-functional decadent brat, the result of generations of might makes right and cousin fucking, given absolute power by sheer force of habit because it's utterly incapable of achieving anything under its own merit. Either this one or his son will be so preoccupied with throwing opulent parties that he won't bother securing the army's loyalty, then we can overthrow him and ratify a constitution.

  2. 10 years ago was 2013. Windows 8.1 was their then-current product. If you told me they were going to put ads in Tile Hell, I would have 100% believed you and/or asked "Are you sure they don't already?" I think you have to reach back to the XP era or earlier for users to be actually incredulous that the OS itself would serve commercials.

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Oh man the amount of hours I put in cleaning out the pre installed garbage on those windows 8 machines

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 9 points 11 months ago

10 years ago was 2013. Microsoft already had ads baked into Windows in 2013.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

I recall a time when Windows 10 was going to be the last release of windows. It's was just going to be updated forever. I'm glad that they have returned to the usual every second or so release is going to be a unfinished half baked turd until we can really get things right in the following release.

RIP Bob, ME, Vista, 8/8.1, and hopefully sooner than later 11...

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago

Oh, schnaps! I remember that.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

What’s the catch?

Among others things, it’s a f*cking Compaq.

[–] otl@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 11 months ago

A listicle? What is this, 2008? Get with the times. Give us a TikTok video with recycled ideas.

[–] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It's the best for a primary OS, but unfortunately you if you make apps or desktop programmes you will probably still need a windows machine, or a Mac, or both. For me I have a windows VM and an old modded mac for those OS's.

Though interestingly probably the best machine for cross platform development would be a new-ish tri booted intel Mac with Linux as your main OS.

Edit: just for the record I use a Thinkpad T430 as my main work computer.

[–] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 12 points 11 months ago

But yeah the way development tools like git just integrate perfectly into the OS is amazing, and the way you can get tools and libraries just by asking your package manager for them is invaluable.

[–] gornius@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Why do you need Windows VM for developing GUI apps? Last time I used Visual Studio to make GUI app I almost gave up programming, because of how code-generation dependent it was.

For C# you have AvaloniaUI. For cpp you have countless multi-platform GUI toolkits, same for rust, Java has its own toolkits (multi-platform), and finally you can make an Electron/Tauri app.

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Kali has become so stereotypical in my region to the point where it has become cringe therefore I can't click the thumbnail which has Kali logo stamped on it

No hate for Kali itself, just the npc's in my region

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I get your point, but I think that Kali's edgelord "cool" distro factor has pulled a lot of folks into Linux who otherwise wouldn't have bothered. And any win's a win in my book.

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Even if they don't know 99% of the tools shipped with Kali, it's still nice that they got pulled onto the Linux wagon as a "cool" wagon

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 11 months ago

They don't even mention the invasive tracking in windows. Guess they dont want to upset Microsoft. :)

[–] mawkler@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Freedom and Unix-like

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

real fwds from FOSS grandma hours, huh.

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Good ole xda site. Haven't messed with it for a long, long time. It is a good writeup, I enjoyed reading it, but why does the writer list RPM as a package manager? Isn't it a package format, or am I crazy?

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It is a package manager, as well as a packaging format. dnf/yum is the frontend for RPM. You can also use rpm as a command utility.

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So, I can use sudo rpm install.... instead of sudo dnf/yum install....?

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

You can't swap rpm with dnf. I haven't used rpm that much, with the exception of using it to install and uninstall .rpm format files, but I think that it's functionality is limited to only installing locally available packages. Maybe dnf handles all the downloads, package transaction, conflict resolution and other stuff which I'm probably not aware of.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

dnf is the right way for an end user to manage packages in modern versions, as it brings lots of extra functionality and an easier command interface - but yes the command rpm -i is able to install and upgrade packages. RPM's name is a recursive acronym "RPM Package Manager"

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 11 months ago

Well, I'll be damned then. I've learned something new today.

[–] jvanostrand@thecanadian.social 1 points 11 months ago

@CaptDust @penquin when i started using it 25 years ago it stood for Red Hat Package Manager.

[–] wiikifox@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

Not a Fedora user, but I'm pretty sure that rpm is for Fedora like dpkg is for Debian. AIW?

[–] ItSaliReza88@mstdn.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] JoeKlemmer@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been hearing this debate for nearly 32 years. It's a useless argument.

The correct name for the # symbol is "octothorpe," but how many people do you know who call it that? You'll either hear it called the Pound sign (by us older folk) or the more modern Hash mark.

The fact is, Linux is both a kernel AND an OS.

[–] ItSaliReza88@mstdn.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@JoeKlemmer
Hmm
But in advanced and expert community you should say gnu linux
Because linux is kernel not os

[–] JoeKlemmer@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 10 months ago

Only Stallman fanatics and newly minted Open Source/Free Software initiates are that pedantic about it.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

While WSL2 has a better overall performance than its predecessor, it’s known for hogging a lot of memory. WSL's read and write times also take a hit if you try to modify or save documents to the Windows file system.

What!?

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

WSL2 is faster than WSL1.

WSL2 can be slower if you are modifying Windows files as opposed to the files in the WSL system.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago
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