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Is there an ethical way to obtain sturgeon? And would it go well in a stroganoff? With beans? (lemm.ee)
submitted 10 months ago by Masimatutu@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I can't help you with the first question, but I very much doubt sturgeon would go well in a stroganoff. For starters, I believe the cooked fish would become very flaky and disappear in the sauce, I also imagine the taste would be very mild as well, you'd be lacking that tangy umami flavor that comes with beef, that's part of what makes stroganoff taste good (at least for me).

As for the beans, it's... Fine, I guess? Not the best side dish to go with a stroganoff, I think something like rice or potatoes would be better, but it doesn't sound horrible.

[–] Retix@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You could go sturgeon spearing in Wisconsin. Cut a hole in the ice, stare at it while drinking for a week hoping a sturgeon swims past. Finally see one and have to guess which of the 3 sturgeon is the real one.

[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

This is such a great comment, lol

[–] conc@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Surely this is what a trident is good for

[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

They’re farmed and supposed to be quite tasty since their skeleton is not completely ossified. Don’t know about the second part though.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Dude, I'll be your friend.

[–] LoraxEleven@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

There's a podcast called Fish Nerds that began long ago, more than ten years, now. It all started with a couple guys that decided to catch and eat every legal fish in New Hampshire. About 48 species, if I remember correctly. The host, Clay Groves, did catch and eat a sturgeon, although I'm not sure if it was in the original 48 fish or something he did later on, it's been a lot of years. But, the guy is absolutely helpful to the point of obsession, I believe. I think if you reached out to him, pretty sure it's fishnerds@gmail but, check that before writing, I could be wrong on the address, he'd be overjoyed to give you the best opinion I think you could get on this question. And it's a damn good podcast, too.

I do a lot of fishing for food, myself, so I'm really interested in what a sturgeon stroganoff would be like! Sounds fuckin wonderful to me!

Shoot the guy an email, or email it as a question to the pod, I think it would be a great mailbag question on a really interesting subject. And you'd be asking a guy that's okay as to eating fish. And the most notable fish eater and sustainability freak I can think of.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Farmed would probably be your best bet. Failing that, they're all at least threatened and you probably want to be able to talk to the exact person who caught it, or you can't trust it was killed for a legitimate reason. The nice thing about a freshwater fish is you're not contributing to ocean fishing, at least, which is famously lawless and awful.

Mandatory vegetarian objection.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you can't trust it was killed for a legitimate reason

I'm probably being a little facetious here, I think I kind of get what you meant, but isn't the whole reason "to sell it to someone who wants to eat it" regardless of which one was killed?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Like, if it was it was road kill (?) or something. Maybe a conservationist came into the possession of a freshly dead sturgeon and wants OP to cook it. I dunno, I've had similar things happen, I posted about the time I got to try kopi luwak here.

Otherwise, no, it's farmed or you're SOL. Eating endangered animals is generally agreed to be a dick move.

[–] amio@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like, if it was it was road kill (?) or something

I keep running into sturgeons in my car. Hate when that happens.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Hmm, I bet that would mess up your tires. They have tooth-like scales IIRC. It could be for research or some other kind of accident, I guess. The point being that it wasn't a kill for food purposes.

Lemmy punishes being inexact so much ("ACKTUALLY") I have to admit I'm a bit butthurt people are coming after me for mentioning the only edge case.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand. I'm speaking specifically about this particular situation you mentioned : what's the difference in terms of legitimacy between the two kills, if both were made to be sold to feed someone else?

I understand the legal aspect, like endangered species protections, etc, but that's another topic entirely. Or is it actually not and you actually meant "legality"?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The point would be it was killed for unrelated reasons, and then is made available post-mortem for consumption somehow. And verifiably so!

As for the ethics:

Eating endangered animals is generally agreed to be a dick move.

I feel like that sums it up pretty well. I don't know OP but I'd bet money that they would agree it's to be avoided, so that's the light I answered the question in.

If this is a vegetarian thing, I did make a mention of that in my OP. Dispensing a lecture instead of answering the spirit of the question would have been unhelpful.

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 5 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure we farm sturgeon here in Vietnam. Mostly for the caviar, but I do see the live fish for sale in the supermarket pretty often.

I don't know what your definition of ethics or culinary excellence are exactly, but hope maybe the above will be useful to you somehow.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh okay, so lemmy is doing sturgeon this week. Okay.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

it's actually been going on a while on feddit.de because the german word for sturgeon also means disrupting.

Pretty sure the mods there actually banned the memes after a week or so.

[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 5 points 10 months ago

Duke loves sturganoff with baked beans

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt 2 points 10 months ago

No ethical way to purchase an animal's life for use in food.

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They sold it at my uni, sales went to the surgeon research department.