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[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

YouTube is going to lose this battle lol.

Both from a legal standpoint and the fact that adblockers WILL adapt

[–] Alby003@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My dude, they already added the commits to chromium months ago.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Not even Microsoft in its monolith days was able to spend enough money to stop a legion of angry nerds with a severe case of "fuck you, you can't tell me what to do".

[–] pip@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 10 points 1 year ago

Just started and instance 3 days ago. :)

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Its their platform . its their choice. We don't have a choice to force them to allow adblockers. There is always a choice to load content after the ads are served . If they go that route then no adblocker can bypass it.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

EU bullied sites into showing cookies warnings even on sites outside of EU. In effing Russia of all places too. You'd think, with enough torque, anything can be pushed onto them. Even good things.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except it's been shown that doesn't work by every site ever that tried it and Adblockers still worked.

That funny popup? Yeah doesn't exist for me. I deleted it on my end within my device and there is nothing YouTube can do about it.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitch would like to have a word with you, the ads are still shown even with the latest ublock filters. Google absolutely can shove ads into your face that your ad blocker won't be able to remove, they just don't do it for now

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I only get the "ad break in progress" screen but it lasts for two fucking minutes Jesus Christ twitch it's a live stream I'm missing the best part!

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Twitch is live streaming which is what probably makes it a challenge to block ads, and the main draw of twitch is watching live content. I'd imagine it's easier to view content that isn't live without ads, and people do repost clips after it's aired where people haven't encountered ads in contrast to live viewers.

Then look at television piracy where live viewing will have ads, but pirated content is uploaded with it stripped away. Blocking ads will be something YouTube will have to keep fighting endlessly.

[–] crimsdings@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As the European law stands and is interpreted, yes we can force them to remove their current implemention

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

It's their choice, and I would simply not use YouTube. Access to YouTube specifically is not very concerning to me.

But if they try to normalize this or even attempt to influence legislators that adblockers should be restricted in any way by law, then I would be concerned, and for this reason I think it's important to articulate right now that there is nothing inherently wrong or unethical about using an adblocker.

[–] shani66@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago

What are you talking about? There's all sorts of ways to bypass the ads

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully it would also apply to websites which port scan your computer.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why adblockers are essential in a nutshell ⤴️

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Ironically, that website uses a reader blocker.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Interview Last week, privacy advocate (and very occasional Reg columnist) Alexander Hanff filed a complaint with the Irish Data Protection Commission (DPC) decrying YouTube's deployment of JavaScript code to detect the use of ad blocking extensions by website visitors.

YouTube's open hostility to ad blockers coincides with the recent trial deployment of a popup notice presented to web users who visit the site with an ad-blocking extension in their browser – messaging tested on a limited audience at least as far back as May.

"In early 2016 I wrote to the European Commission requesting a formal legal clarification over the application of Article 5(3) of the ePrivacy Directive (2002/58/EC) and whether or not consent would be required for all access to or storage of information on an end user's device which was not strictly necessary," Hanff told The Register.

"Specifically whether the deployment of scripts or other technologies to detect an ad blocker would require consent (as it is not strictly necessary for the provision of the requested service and is purely for the interests of the publisher).

Hanff disagrees, and maintains that "The Commission and the legislators have been very clear that any access to a user's terminal equipment which is not strictly necessary for the provision of a requested service, requires consent.

"This is also bound by CJEU Case C-673/17 (Planet49) from October 2019 which all Member States are legally obligated to comply with, under the [Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union] – there is no room for deviation on this issue," he elaborated.


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[–] Brutticus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] crimsdings@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I filed the same complaint at the Austrian data privacy agency and asked them to coordinate with the Irish one. You should do the same in your European nation.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Anyone have family call them after finding out blocking ads on YT is even possible?

I think all this is causing a bit of Streisand effect. Now even more will be blocking ads.

[–] Yinchie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just for your info, There are alternative YouTube clients that allow you to bypass all the ads. Working great on Windows and Android. When you update uBlock Origin, it works on browsers as well.