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Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average::Computers, hardware, software and gaming in Spanish and English

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[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 year ago

Steam Deck and Proton have done wonders for Linux compatibility efforts.

However looking at NEW releases I actually want to play, many launch barely working on windows let a lone via proton / emulation. My back catalog has great support but we need more titles launching with official support.

The worst thing has to be all of the "launchers / game stores" JUST GIVE US GAMES!

[–] gondezee@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Limited to amd though, yea? Nvidia still holding back their drivers?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nvidia is their own worst enemy as regards Linux. When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate. We're 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won't be a game that doesn't run better on Linux.

[–] PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

nVidia will be crying outside the gate

Yeeeeaaah I really doubt it sorry

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate.

So you think Microsoft spends 8 billion dollars acquiring Bethesda Game Studios, Arkane Studios, id Software, MachineGames, Tango Gameworks, ZeniMax Online Studios in 2020 and then proceeds to spend 68 billion dollars on acquiring Activision Blizzard...

... just to stand on the sidelines watching everyone drop Windows as a gaming platform?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do lock you to Windows to use GamePass, but as long as the games are available on other marketplaces they'll be playable on Linux. The Xbox app, which is what you have to use for GamePass for some stupid reason, installs games in a special encrypted format that can't (easily) be executed from outside of it.

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[–] rurutheguru@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

Linux performance with proton has increased so drastically in recent years, your statement can be taken as wishful thinking at first, but there is a definite trend and I agree that Linux will probably be the powerhouse of gaming in coming years.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago

Well, that's what happens when you don't have crazy spyware services running in the background. Also Windows, just like any Microsoft product, is very inefficient and wastes lots of resources.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Man, I am really looking forward to fully ditching Windows.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's no time better than the present 😀 Windows free since April!

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[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I finally pulled the trigger (again, hopefully for good this time) after a nonconsensual Windows update corrupted my disk and my bitlocker recovery key was not accepted.

That was a couple months ago now and I'm happy to report that not only is game compatibility on Linux loads better than last time I tried this but I can corroborate that many of my games also perform better on Linux than they did on the same system in Windows

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My next gaming PC is gonna be Linux. There, I said it.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Virtually any computer that isn't Apple Silicon can install Linux on it and it'll run smoother and faster than Win or Mac.

People who are anti-Linux either don't understand computers or are traumatized from the early 2000s

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[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You know it's super easy to change your operating system right? Lol

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It must be very hard to exactly compare games between Windows and Linux because it's possible that emulation in Proton, WINE or the driver means some settings or extensions might not be enabled even if they appear to be. DirectX emulation is also bound to slow things down so a game probably has to be use OpenGL or Vulkan directly.

So while I can well believe that Linux can keep up and possibly exceed Windows, it needs a careful technical eye to ensure a true comparison is happening.

[–] IntrepidIceIgloo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] arc@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Wine is an emulator. It might not have started as such when it was winelib but it is now, especially when running binaries. If in doubt read their own FAQ where they take pains to describe it depends what you're doing and what is meant by emulation.

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[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

but the E literally stands for emulator

(I'm kidding)

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago

Just in case someone sees this and doesn't understand all this, WINE is an acronym that literally means "WINE Is Not an Emulator."

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[–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is impressive and interesting, but what about hardware ray tracing support? Proton has been very impressive but I thought that RT on DX12 was basically non-existent on Linux.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago

GN came to a weaker conclusion when they were looking at one of the handhelds (I want to say the asus ROG?), although they just attributed that to the device rather than claim it was the OS.

But most of this reminds me of how Elden Ring was significantly more performant "on steam deck" at launch. And that was mostly because all shaders had to be precached which had implications on how From were streaming content. Which is likely why stuff like mortal kombat 1 apparently forces players to wait for shaders before they can play.

[–] 01011@monero.town 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I remember when I used to run games via Wine over 15 years ago and they performed better than on similar hardware running Windows.

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s great and all, but can I still pirate games on Linux? (Don’t judge me)

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah just add the game as a non steam game to steam and click play.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's better I fact. There's a lot less worry about installing a virus.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 18 points 1 year ago

(Not so) fun fact, a lot of Windows viruses work under Wine on Linux. If you have ransomware bundled with your pirated media, it will likely also encrypt your Linux files.

Use Bottles as a Flatpak, isolate all your applications from each other and from your host system.

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Actually, no. Windows viruses can work well in wine. You still have to be careful in that regard.

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[–] Drxmiz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Not only in games, I switched from Windows 10 to LXQT and I can finally open more than 3 programs at the same time without the pc hanging for 10 seconds every time I switched between programs

[–] malchior@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'll switch to Linux when I can play any game I choose to without any stuffing around, or when/if M$ start charging BS subscription.

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