Is it really worth it shooting someone who's just shoplifting? I can see gun use in self-defence, and even then, just complying with the robber is probably the best option.
this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
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Especially as just an employee of a large corporation. Not like his money is affected by the shoplifting. Dude probably was just itching to actually shoot someone.
Knew a guy in my retail days who would chase shoplifters out the door, one time did a flying double leg kick, thing, and dropped a guy (not permanently injured) to the ground.
He almost lost his job, and as a witness I got to make a statement (no charges filed, ultimately for the retail guy) but corporate put a quick stop to that behaviour.
It was better than minimum wage, but not much. No benefits. I still don't understand the thought on it. Risk your life for little better than minimum wage? For a massive global company? Fuck that.
Was held up at gunpoint once. Popped the register open and stepped back. He needs a couple hundred bucks that bad he can have it, I'm not dying for that shit.
Remember the smoke shop guy who stabbed an underage shoplifter multiple times in the back and then got on reddit and said it was like counterstrike?
And every comment was like "you fucking moron stop posting and lawyer up"
Put this dude's face on every store wall.
The right thing to dealing with theft when you work at a minimum wage job is nothing. You aren't paid to stop theft. Nor do you have the training.
And here's proof. GameStop is going to back away and let this guy go to jail. They don't care about the merch he "protected".
Dude went to jail with murder charges over a few hundred dollars.
How much pent up rage and anger does it take in order to shoot someone for stealing from your corporate employer?
The employee wasn’t in any kind of danger. He just wanted to shoot someone under what he thought were justifiable conditions.
... taken into custody on Wednesday, one day after an unidentified man stole an unspecified piece of merchandise ...
It sounds like the cops did a good job here. Initially, he wasn't arrested. He was arrested the next day, after the cops investigated. He'd apparently lied to the cops about what happened (maybe said the victim had a weapon), and the cops didn't just take his word for it and not try to corroborate with other evidence.
American's always seem to claim they carry guns for self defense but in so many cases it's apparent that's a fabrication.
Imagine spending your time desperately fantasizing daily about the chance to legally use your firearm. Maybe one day you'll be a hero or at least can act in self defense. So many days go by and yet, no one is trying to hurt or kill you.
So many banal and similarly uneventful days...
... Then, surprise! The day finally happens. A shop lifter goes to steal something. That's a crime! It's a crime, and I'm in danger, right? You get tunnel vision, adrenaline starts pumping as fight or flight kicks in. Rationality goes out the window and now your sole focus is to ensure you can pull that firearm and actually shoot this criminal. Suddenly you realize the thief is almost out the door. Your fantasy, your chance is never gonna happen again. His back is turned, it's a clear shot, and you fire striking and killing him.
It's fucking dumb and there's no doubt in my mind that there are a ton of Americans who are either living scared or have a Hero Complex that own firearms just itching for their chance to use it legally.
A lot of gun owners don’t take safety seriously enough, either. Some of them leave loaded, unsecured firearms “hidden”, kids inevitably find them, and there are WAY too many tragic, completely preventable deaths. It’s completely insane.
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You can always use the pinned post Why a(nother) shoplifting community to talk about why you think stealing is wrong etc.