Blows my mind that anyone still uses WinRAR when 7zip exists.
this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
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What should blow your mind is that it's 2023 and you still need a separate program to extract compressed files on windows. π Good thing they're adding native support for it in windows 11. FINALLY.
Windows has had native unzip support since Microsoft Plus! 98 added it to Windows 98 in 1998.
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You do on Linux as well, it's just installed by default.
For my personal use, Linux has every single thing I need right out of the box. That's why it's my main OS.
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And often, you need two! I use both gzip and tar all the time
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theyβre adding native support for it in windows 11
What could possibly go wrong.
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Well it would blow your mind to know that many people just use whatever they know that does the job
There is a certain sense of old friend that you know by heart, I've downloaded so much things where the last step was to pass it by WinRAR, but yeah I should change when there are proofs like that
WinRAR was good in ancient times when it was the only zip program available. Even in the Windows XP era there were better things to use if you knew about them. I doubt 7zip was really that usable in the early 2000s but it eventually got good and nowadays 7zio is so good that of you aren't using it, you're doing it wrong.
FUCK WINRAR!
it's so stupid and amazing this recent celebration of people that are proud to have paid for it.
It was never a good solution really..
It just worked for what it was for a time... Because it was better than WinZip or pkzip.
7-zip has been amazing for years..
Better OS support would be cool too but it's so unnecessary thanks to 7zip.
FUCK WINRAR!
People on Lemmy sometimes get really angry at the dumbest things.
You don't like Winrar, that's your right, chill dude.
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WinRAR was great for the time and their policies on paying for the program were extremely generous. Time just overtook it.
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7z recently also had an exploit. It's not magically safer.
RAR compresses significantly faster than 7z (in relation to the compression ratio of course).
RAR has recovery records, 7z doesn't. RAR4 even had cryptographic signatures included. But RAR5 dropped that.
7z is nice, but it's not objectively better than RAR on every account.
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WinRAR had a great gui and it integrates much better (imho) into windows than 7zip, only thing 7zip has going for it is it's free.
If we are talking command line, rar is free (inb4 Unix guys butt in)
The only thing I missed switching to 7zip was the UX. 7zip is a bit weird at first, but then you find out that it will extract lots of installers. So now you can just get the wifi driver and not the bloatware that comes along with it, and it's all good.
7zip integrates very nicely into Explorer (so you can right click a file or folder and compress straight from there). I admit the main GUI of 7zip looks ancient but I never needed it.
If you're on Windows (I know I know, switch to Linux) I prefer NanaZip over base 7zip
doesn't WinRAR do certain things that 7zip doesn't?
I can't think of what 7zip lacks, but I know it does lack some features
The reason WinRAR was useful to me allllllll those years ago was for one thing and one thing only: You could split an archive into chunks. So mostly I found that it was good for getting my warez in 1.44MB chunks.
Anon: hey Krudler, do you have a cracked copy of GTA3
Krudler: say no more, friend
Sends 350 floppy disks with the cracked game
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Afaik, the only thing 7Zip lacks in comparison to WinRAR is the ability to create rar files, and that's only because the format is proprietary.
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Why not? I prefer it over 7-Zip because it has built-in parity both in the archive itself and as separate files. You can achieve the latter with 7-Zip using PAR, but it's just more convenient to have it built-in for both parity creation and recovery.
I also feel like it's consuming a lot less RAM while compressing at similar speeds and achieving similar, if not sometimes better (RAR5), results.
Just because it had a zero-day bug that has already been fixed doesn't mean it's bad software. I wouldn't be surprised if zero-days came to light in other archival software. 7-Zip isn't magically immune to this.
I don't get why someone would prefer rar over zip and 7z.
Even tar.gz and all their flavors are more common.
Yeah, well technically .cab is more common than tar.gz but that doesn't mean I'd start using it.
I personally use RAR because I think it's a better format than ZIP, but I use ZIP when I have to share the archive with anyone.
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There's the occasional RAR archive 7-Zip doesn't open for me, but WinRAR does. π€·π»
7zip exists and is free.
7zip will unpack rar files? I've used it for years and never knew.
It'll unpack everything
Packing / unpacking: 7z, XZ, BZIP2, GZIP, TAR, ZIP and WIM Unpacking only: APFS, AR, ARJ, CAB, CHM, CPIO, CramFS, DMG, EXT, FAT, GPT, HFS, IHEX, ISO, LZH, LZMA, MBR, MSI, NSIS, NTFS, QCOW2, RAR, RPM, SquashFS, UDF, UEFI, VDI, VHD, VHDX, VMDK, XAR and Z.
Will it unpack my bags from the weekend? Cos it's Friday now and I still can't be bothered
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Yea. It just canβt pack files into RaR.
Fuck WinRAR. It's for normie NPCs. 7Zip is FOSS, and everybody should be using it instead.
7zip's Linux port (p7zip) was lagging back in functionality last I heard, and also was abandoned then, don't know how it is now.
It has an official Linux port now, goes by 7zz
why do I find nothing about that on the 7zip website, but I do find stuff about p7zip?
https://7-zip.org/download.html contains Linux downloads and in them 7zz binaries.
The front page with the p7zip link looks out of date.
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See guys, we shoulda paid for it back then. Now we're paying for it now XD
Who the hell hurts winRAR? That's like punching Dolly Parton.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The WinRAR vulnerability, first discovered by cybersecurity company Group-IB earlier this year and tracked as CVE-2023-38831, allows attackers to hide malicious scripts in archive files that masquerade as seemingly innocuous images or text documents.
In research shared with TechCrunch ahead of its publication, TAG says it has observed multiple campaigns exploiting the WinRAR zero-day bug, which it has tied to state-backed hacking groups with links to Russia and China.
One of these groups includes a Russian military intelligence unit dubbed Sandworm, which is known for destructive cyberattacks, like the NotPetya ransomware attack it launched in 2017 that primarily hit computer systems in Ukraine and disrupted the countryβs power grid.
Separately, TAG says it observed another notorious Russia-backed hacking group, tracked as APT28 and commonly known as Fancy Bear, using the WinRAR zero-day to target users in Ukraine under the guise of anΒ email campaign impersonating the Razumkov Centre, a public policy think tank in the country.
Googleβs findings follow an earlier discovery by threat intelligence company Cluster25, which said last week that it had also observed Russian hackers exploiting the WinRAR vulnerability as a phishing campaign designed to harvest credentials from compromised systems.
Google added that its researchers found evidence that the China-backed hacking group, known as APT40, which the U.S. government has previously linked to Chinaβs Ministry of State Security, also abused the WinRAR zero-day flaw as part of a phishing campaign targeting users based in Papua New Guinea.
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I read "dubbed Sandworm" but my brain always displays darude Sandstorm in my mind.
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