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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Interesting how it was a climate activist that they used this on first. Not a sexual predator, bomber terrorist, human trafficker, or drug kingpin, the genuinely undoubtedly horrible kinds of people that the State tries to convince the public these surveillance legislation are targeting.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago

I don't think it is a first at all... just the first time it has caused sufficient outrage that we get to hear about it.

Which is precisely why I think ProtonMail should actively fight those requests even if they are likely to lose. By staying quiet and complying the majority of people will never hear of such legal over-reach and just think all is fine.

[–] johnsmith444@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

Seems legit.

[–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago

Dam son. You think they confiscated their ravioli?

[–] Emberleaf@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

As an alternative to Protonmail, I can enthusiastically recommend Posteo as a privacy-centric and ethical email service. Well worth checking out!

[–] blank_sl8@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

But without the key feature of Protonmail, e2e encryption at rest. Almost all protonmail alternatives (tutanota being the exception) talk about "privacy" but don't actually take this critical step.

If posteo is served a warrant or whatnot in whichever country it's based, do you really think they'll do anything differently than Protonmail anyway?

EDIT: I stand corrected. Posteo does in fact support encryption at rest (though I think it's disabled by default): https://posteo.de/en/site/encryption#cryptomailstorage

[–] YSU@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Protonmail only has e2e if you email another protonmail email. It's impossible to have it across domains, if you actually care about security just use pgp.

[–] blank_sl8@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Protonmail stores emails encrypted on disk. So yes, Protonmail could store the unencrypted messages as they arrive, but as long as they don't have a warrant at the time the message is received, they can't access it later.

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