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This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 164 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's important to note that the real disparity may be even far worse.

OCHA-OPT (the committee gathering this data) is strict about verifying validity of Palestinian casualties, requiring two independent, verified and non-affiliated sources. Casualties in Israel, however, they trust the media at face value. They also exclude a lot of Palestinian casualties even when verified in certain situations. Example, and I quote them:

People who were killed or injured in conflict-related incidents that took place in Israel and did not involve residents of the oPt are also excluded.

oPt (occupied Palestinian territories) are the areas that Israel does not directly oversee. So most of Israel is not oPt by their criteria.

Israel is notorious for restricting journalists reporting on Israeli crimes, and has murdered journalists countless of times, like last year the Christian Palestinian Shireen Abu Akleh reporting on the forced expulsion of Palestinians from Sheikh Jarrah (so not even in a war zone area). This causes many casualties to go unverified and thus undocumented.

And Israel has been caught lying before about its own casualties, like the 40 beheaded babies.

Take that as you will.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That 2023 number is about to get way more lopsided.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 101 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It isn't anti-Semitism to criticize israel, it's just noticing the obvious.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are criticisms that are antisemitic. This isn't one of them, though.

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[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite was when Bernie Sanders was called antisemitic for criticizing Israel. His response was something along the lines of "It isn't antisemitic to criticize a right-wing government in Israel." It must've taken all the patience in the world to not add "you fucking toolbags".

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[–] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Dafuq is this meme? civilians are civilians, regardless of the country religion or whatever the duck they're born in.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

If civilians are civilians...

"Amongst Israelis, 69% of those killed were civilians and 31% members of the IDF. The number of Israeli civilians killed, from attacks by Palestinian armed groups or individuals, has declined steadily, peaking in 2002 at an average of 22 deaths per month, and dropping markedly to an average of one civilian per month in 2007. 6/

In contrast to Israeli figures, however, Palestinian civilian fatalities have remained high. Palestinian civilians, killed by Israeli security forces, peaked with an average of 35 deaths per month in 2002, and again in 2004. In 2007 they dropped slightly to an average of ten civilian deaths per month."

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-208380/

Both sides kill civilians with abandon, and Israel is markedly better at it. Major media doesn't seem to care very much about Palestinian civilians though.

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I completely agree with you. Which is why when you look at the grotesque number of civilians Israel kills every year it's pretty easy to condem them.

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[–] HorriblePerson@feddit.nl 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with the comic. I do however disagree with the title. I think the Hamas' attack shouldn't to be called "resistance", just as Israel's response shouldn't be called "self defense".

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvote this to the front page so that lemmy world sees it.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard to notice something when you close your eyes and plug your ears

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[–] SigloPseudoMundo@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Take a look at this guy's other Palestine Israel Post and decide if you wanna upvote this terrorist enjoyer.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is this cartoon originally about the US invading the middle east? Looks like the twin towers in there.

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