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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A senior Hamas official said the group is open to discussions over a possible truce with Israel, having "achieved its targets."

Yep, Hamas managed to entrench both sides in their fucking atrocity competition, so Hamas and the Israeli right-wing can both hang onto power by the fear and hatred stirred in their populations. Great. Same time again next year?

Fucking scumsuckers.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

After what happened, I don't think Israel is going to allow Hamas to hang on to power. They are not going to allow Gaza to ever again be in a position to attack Israeli citizens, and that's going to come at the cost of a lot of innocent Palestinians.

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

Just as a little reality check for all Hamas "fans" (Hamas not Palestine!!) out here which are actually comparing them to Israel or openly defending them. The Hamas is founded on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which are a fairytale full of antisemitism and proven, false statements about Jews and how they are responsible for every bad thing that happens during the centuries and their diabolical plot for world domination (of course one of the favorite lecture of the Nazis)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Those idiots are really believing this fairytale and they use it to justify the murder of innocent people and Jews in general. So the next time you step in in defense of the Hamas or when you compare them to Israel, keep in mind that they are doing this because they believe in some antisemitic fairytale written by a crazy Russian back in the old days...they are basically Scientology only more degenerated and more violent.

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[–] osarusan@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

Real Putin energy here.

[–] tory@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

We took hostages so now you should negotiate rather than genocide the entire Gaza strip.

Yeah, good luck with that.

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[–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LMAO come on, guess they didn't expect the IDF to fight back 🤷🏽

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago

Taking a shit in the public water supply, getting roughed up as people demand to know why you just shat in the only watersource, and then you tell them to chill and that you "got your point across" lmao.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah sorry Hamas, no takesy backsies when you just murdered a bunch of civilians at a peace festival.

It's like your brother just stole your favourite toy and then he's like "ok now we can have a truce".

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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're way past the line.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Hamas fucked around, is finding out, and want to talk "truce?" What does a truce with a bunch of genocidal terrorists look like?

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not carpet bombing the Gaza strip, where 2 and a half million palestinians live I'd imagine.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Israel was carpet bombing the Gaza Strip, we wouldn't see hundreds dead. We would see hundreds of thousands dead.

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[–] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Good question, should ask Israel the same thing.

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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Lol no way; Hamas needs to be wiped out completely. They can never, ever, be trusted and will just do this shit again in the future.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (11 children)

But Israel is allowed to murder men, women and children and steal homes, land for decades right?

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Yeah, what Hamas did is entirely wrong but don’t forget that Israel been oppressing Palestinians for decades.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Nope. I don't support Israel doing that either. However, Hamas will never tolerate peace. They will never allow a 2-state compromise; they want Israel completely gone. And Israel is allowed to defend it's borders. There is no happy ending here for anyone.

[–] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The right-wing party in Israel (the party currently in control even after losing multiple elections) will also never support peaceful co-existence. They will never allow a real two state solution where the other state has control over its borders, air, water, import rights, etc. They want Palestine completely gone, and in fact Bibi was just at the UN arguing that Israel already has complete control and ownership over the Palestinian territories. Palestine is allowed to defend against the longest running occupation in history. There is no happy ending here as long as the Israeli boot is on the Palestinian neck.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Gaza strip is within Israel's borders. They hold direct power over whether the people who live there have electricity water and food.

Israel is not defending itself. They are using hamas attacks as a pretext to commit mass violence on Palestinians.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean yeah it'd be great if you could just do that. But how would you? And more importantly, how is the state of Israel proposing to get rid of Hamas? What actions are they taking right now with that aim? They're bombing palestinians. Just random indiscriminate bombing. How exactly would that eliminate Hamas? Their plan is just to kill as many palestinians as they can, Netanyahu has said himself he plans to "turn Gaza into a desert island" and his defense minister has said "our enemies are human animals". It's plain as day what they plan to do.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exchange prisoners for Hamas leaders, make Hamas say outright that they see Palestinian lives as lesser than their own.

If they actually have enough spine to take the deal, start a whole new Nuremberg trial and purge everyone down to the "just following orders" grunts and rebuild from there.

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