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Egypt already has 12 million homeless people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_homeless_population
1.2 out of 10 people in Egypt is homeless.
Jordan, with a population of 11 million people, already has 2.1 million Palestinian refugees and 1.4 million Syrian refugees.
Those countries are in no position to help.
Look elsewhere for solutions.
I have a question. How many homeless people do we need to build a house, taken that stones, clay and sticks are available (or provided)? People once build pyramids there. World is anyway supporting them with food and a means to live – can't the leadership be provided too (if they can't organize themselves)? Can't able to work build the houses for themselves and others? What do they do all day?
P.S. and I understand than not everybody can work, some have health issues - but hey, we are talking about 12milion, sure there are atleast 120k able to work persons in that crowd, who could work for 2 hours per day each.
So you want to make a scrap material slum? With no infrastructure like running water or sewage?
I suppose anything is possible if you take human dignity out of the equation.
Because they don’t want the Palestinians either.
Same reason Jordan hasn’t done it.
It’s been suggested and rejected.
IIRC, Egypt also sees Hamas as a threat since Hamas is backed by Iran. They aren't going to do anything to make life easier for Hamas or similar groups.
Jordan won’t take them either.
Now in all fairness they want their own country even though historically they’ve never had one.
That may be the right move but they have to stop acting like terrorist first.
I had a good Palestinian friend who always felt they should merge with Israel and ride the gold train
they have to stop acting like terrorist first.
Maybe Israel should stop acting like fascists.
Every thread on Lemmy the last few days.
The kurds never had a country should we let them continue to be abused?
We moved a bunch of people and made Israel. So let's do it again. We'll just move the Palestinians to Wyoming. We've got plenty of space up there.
You know what? Fuck it, let's do it. We helped create these problems, let's help solve them. 67% of Gaza's population is under 24, so any money we spend, we'll like get back in tax dollars. We can set up a Palestinian relocation bureau and start a voluntary exodus. Set aside relocation into our empty ass states, with some condition that they must maintain permanent residence for 5-10 years in that state. Have a jobs program and generate a great surge of skilled labor. We might let in a few extremists, but a third of our population is already there, so a couple thousand more won't really impact our status quo too much.
I like the but enthusiasm but not all wyomingers will want neighbors, kinda like some of the indigenous Palestinians didn't necessarily want a bunch of settlers. Hmm
Not just Wyoming, we have quite a few states that sit empty. Their opinions on the issue don't matter. They'll just have to make do, like they expect others to do. Like I said, we'll make it voluntary for the Palestinians. Those who want to stay and fight the power in the apartheid state can, but those who want a chance at something else can come on over.
I know you are not suggesting that seriously, but if we were to consider that seriously, I don't think it would work.
Palestine (and more concretely Jerusalem) is considered the Holy Land by Judaism, Islam and Christianity. That's why the state of Israel was created there and not somewhere else. And that's why Palestinians wouldn't receive with a lot of enthusiasm the idea of being given a state of their own somewhere else.
A big part of the conflict is a "holy war" thing about who controls the Holy Land.
I told this to a group of people once and the silence killed me from ever commenting on the situation in a group setting again. A diplomat I am not
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What kind of heartless monster do you have to be to inflict Wyoming on the poor souls‽
Haven't they suffered enough‽
You'd probably see the most success relocating them to the great lakes where arab communities are already pretty well established. Also Queens to a lesser extent, Palestinians in particular would feel right at home in Queens, they've got Knaffeh and everything!
To add to what everyone else has said, why should the Palestinians be forced to move? You're suggesting the next Armenian Genocide or Trail of the Tears.
Aside from what everyone else is saying, Egypt is on the verge of economic collapse. People are poor and the Egyptian Pound is losing all of its value, even if we do open our borders Egypt won't be able to provide any kind of support to them.
Why Doesn't France/UK/US/Italy/Japan/China/Russia/Turkey or whatever country open it's border ?
Because we gladly don't border Gaza
Fucking right. I'm so glad I'm nowhere near that area. I looked at my six months old son and it just breaks my heart all the kids that are terrified right now bcz of power hungry assholes.
And still we could travel there without passing through any other country.
Explain how France, UK share a border with the Middle East?
If you say "airport" then New Zealand and Greenland go on your list too.
Israel's peace treaty with Egypt after the Yom Kippur War gives Israel control of a 100-meter wide buffer between Gaza and Egypt. So it doesn't open its borders because it doesn't have one, just a border with Israel. A later agreement gave Egypt some limited control over the buffer zone, so there are Egyptian guards in charge of the border crossing now, but they can't do whatever they want.
Open border or not, that crossing is a literal death trap right now.
Thanks for the link, there is a link to another article that details Egypt's request to open a humanitarian corridor. Good to hear, and answers my question.
Reuters reported that Egyptian authorities have asked Israel to refrain from targeting the border area and to create a safe corridor for civilians, citing two security sources.
Accepting 2 million refugees from Gaza (~2% of Egypt population) would surely crash Egypt economy and cause many unforseen social issues.
Is there a good eli5 on this. There is a lot here to understand and unpack and i need to be better educated. I think in the end it's a holy war but don't want to make improper assumptions.
Because Israel's neighbors pretend to take the moral highground when in reality, none of them want to accept the Palestinians either. No country wants to look soft on migration. Poltics 101.